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World of Hyatt Credit Card benefit details and notes


Anniversary Free Night Award (Category 1-4)
  • Issued 10 weeks after cardmember anniversary date
  • Expires 1 year after issuance
  • Ineligible for use with Club Lounge Access Awards and Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards
Additional Free Night Award (Category 1-4) with $15k spend
  • The spend counter for this benefit tracks total cumulative purchases during the current calendar year (excluding $95 annual fee and any other non-qualifying transactions).
  • The spend counter for this benefit resets at the beginning of every calendar year. Chase does not make this spend counter visible to customers, so interested customers must calculate their own. Note that this is a separate spend counter from the "Two Additional Night Credits" spend counter below.
  • Issued 1-2 days after statement closing date of the triggering transaction (the transaction causing the spend counter to cross $15k)
  • Expires 1 year after issuance
  • Ineligible for use with Club Lounge Access Awards and Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards
  • Cardmembers are eligible for only 1 Additional Free Night Award per calendar year (e.g., spending $30k does not result in two Additional Free Night Awards
Two Additional Night Credits with every $5k spend
  • The spend counter for this benefit tracks total cumulative purchases since account opening (excluding $95 annual fee and any other non-qualifying transactions)
  • This spend counter never resets. Chase does not make this spend counter visible to customers, so interested customers must calculate their own. Note that this is a separate spend counter from the "Additional Free Night Award" spend counter above.
  • Issued 1-2 days after statement closing date of the triggering transaction (the transaction causing the spend counter to cross a multiple of $5k)
  • For World of Hyatt status qualification purposes, the night credits are associated with the TRANSACTION date of the triggering transaction, not the posting date and not the statement closing date. For example, triggering transactions on 12/31/2022 (transaction date) will result in 2 night credits for the 2022 status year, regardless of posting date or statement closing date. Based on FT reports, transaction date appears to be based on the US Eastern Time Zone.
  • World of Hyatt Credit Card: timing for $5k spend 2 qualifying nights
Other Benefits
  • 4 Bonus Points per $1 spent on purchases at Hyatt hotels
  • 2 Bonus Points per $1 spent on restaurants, airline tickets purchased directly from the airline, local transit and commuting, and fitness club and gym memberships
  • 1 Bonus Point per $1 spent on all other purchases
  • Discoverist status every year
  • 5 qualifying night credits every year
  • No foreign transaction fees
  • Travel & purchase coverage

Other notes and tips


Chase spending tracker
  • The Chase spending tracker is useful for calculating your spend counter for the $15k Additional Free Night Award and your spend counter for the Two Additional Night Credits
  • Chase mobile app: "View all transactions", then switch to the "Spending Summary" tab
  • Chase website: From the main page, on the right hand side, click the "Spending & Budgeting" menu, then choose "Spending Summary"
  • Remember to add spend from prior calendar year(s) as needed (see spend counter notes above), and to subtract $95 annual fee and any other non-qualifying transactions from all years
  • Full list of non-qualifying transactions: returns, refunds, balance transfers, cash advances, travelers checks, foreign currency, money orders, wire transfers or similar cash-like transactions, lottery tickets, casino gaming chips, race track wagers or similar betting transactions, any checks that access your account, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, and fees of any kind, including an annual fee

Sign-up bonus offer


Chase card overview and application page: Link

Current sign-up offer (as of Feb 1, 2022): Earn up to 60,000 Bonus Points
  • 30,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases in your first 3 months from account opening.
  • Plus, up to 30,000 More Bonus Points by earning 2 Bonus Points total per $1 spent in the first 6 months from account opening on purchases that normally earn 1 Bonus Point, on up to $15,000 spent.

Previous sign-up offer: Earn up to 50,000 Bonus Points and 10 Night Credits (last checked: Dec 22, 2020 - no mention of 10 night credits)
  • Earn 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Earn an additional 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases within the first 6 months of account opening.
  • Apply by December 31, 2020 and get 10 qualifying night credits towards your next tier status in 2020 and 2021.

Previous sign-up offer: Earn up to 50,000 Bonus Points (ended Apr 14, 2020)
  • Earn 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Earn an additional 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases (including first $3,000) within the first 6 months of account opening.

Previous sign-up offer: Earn up to 60,000 Bonus Points (ended Jan 9, 2019)
  • Earn 40,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Plus, earn an additional 20,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases (including first $3,000) within the first 6 months of account opening.
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Old Oct 9, 2023 | 8:57 am
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Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
If your intent is to track spending for CC TQN purposes, it’s only necessary and perhaps you could also more easily track spending since the last 2 TQN you received from the card. Such a transaction would appear chronologically on your Hyatt activity as “Bonus Credit Card Night Credits (month and day), 2023 Qualifying Night(s) 2.”
That might not be very precise, though, depending on how much spend you happen to put on the card during that month.

e.g., I had 2 EQN post right after my Aug 2023 statement. My August statement balance (= new charges) was $850. I don’t kow which of those 850 dollars was the one that triggered the EQN posting. Sadly, going back to the previous EQN posting, back in Jan, doesn’t add a lot of precision. That statement had $750 in new charges.

(from wiki:

Two Additional Night Credits with every $5k spend
  • Issued 1-2 days after statement closing date of the triggering transaction (the transaction causing the spend counter to cross a multiple of $5k)
)

My statements never go back more than 2 years because I’ve had 5-6 different cards/accounts for this card over the past 10 years because I’ve been able to receive a SUB for this card 5-6 times in the past 10 years .
From a different thread:

Originally Posted by notquiteaff
(my most recent new card account is 15 months old. I opened two new cards in the last two years. My most recent Amex account was opened in 2019. By Flyertalk standards I am a terrible churner and probably should be banned from these forums )
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Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
If your intent is to track spending for CC TQN purposes, its only necessary and perhaps you could also more easily track spending since the last 2 TQN you received from the card. Such a transaction would appear chronologically on your Hyatt activity as Bonus Credit Card Night Credits (month and day), 2023 Qualifying Night(s) 2.
If your goal is to obtain another 2 EQN, then yes, you could be assured of it by spending $5k+ since your previous receipt of 2 EQNs.

However if say you are at 60 nights and your goal is to hold short of the next threshold, then I think you won't know if your previous 2 EQNs were because you went over the next $5k by $1 spend or by $4999 spend?
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Old Oct 9, 2023 | 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
That might not be very precise, though, depending on how much spend you happen to put on the card during that month….:
Originally Posted by Zorak
… if say you are at 60 nights and your goal is to hold short of the next threshold, …
I guess it all depends the desired precision. ​​​​​​​
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Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
I guess it all depends the desired precision.

Every buck I overshoot might cost me between $0.0187 and $0.025 in tax processing fees, so I am aiming for perfect precision.

(my year-end plan is to get to $15k in spend this year for the free night, and earn four more EQN to reach the next milestone award, another free night. These two goals are reasonably well aligned as far as the remaining spend required, +- $850 or so. And then cancel the card and follow your example of churning earning a new SUB).
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
That might not be very precise, though, depending on how much spend you happen to put on the card during that month.

e.g., I had 2 EQN post right after my Aug 2023 statement. My August statement balance (= new charges) was $850. I dont kow which of those 850 dollars was the one that triggered the EQN posting. Sadly, going back to the previous EQN posting, back in Jan, doesnt add a lot of precision. That statement had $750 in new charges.

(from wiki:

Two Additional Night Credits with every $5k spend
  • Issued 1-2 days after statement closing date of the triggering transaction (the transaction causing the spend counter to cross a multiple of $5k)
)



From a different thread:
Exactly my issue.. trying to get 2 more EQNs but not trying to spend a full $5k to do it. I need all the spend I can get for another card that earns benefits right after achieving these 2 EQNs. The few grand may make all the difference as to whether I achieve it or not (on the other card). Frustrating they don't let you track this stuff.

Tracking based on the last time I saw 2 EQNs could result in us spending $4,999 to get it (as we may be just one dollar over and not know it).
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff
year-end plan is to get to $15k in spend this year for the free night, and earn four more EQN to reach the next milestone award, another free night. then cancel the card and follow your example of churning earning a new SUB).
Sounds reasonable.

BUT, do NOT follow my example (described on this post and thread) of cancelling near the end of the year (thus losing the January 1st 5 TQN) and/or near your anniversary date (thus losing anniversary FNA). In terms of re-applying, should only be a 1-2 month difference if you cancel in January instead of November/December.

There was a lot of discussion (IIRC on this thread) regarding getting 5 annual TQN on January 1st, closing that account shortly thereafter, applying (again) months later and getting another annual 5 TQN from the new account. I dont recall if we reached consensus, Im a believer that it is possible without ending up in Chases doghouse.
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Just an updated. I completed the 15K spend about 1.5 weeks ago and nothing hit my account. I contacted Chase via SM and they just said to wait the 4-8 weeks.
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Old Oct 12, 2023 | 9:54 pm
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How does Chase calculate running total ?

I have been using a spreadsheet to tack monthly spending since day 1; the EQN numbers (calculated from the running total) recently does not match what was posted by Hyatt. Wondering whether others encountered the same issue. I called Chase to inquire the running total but was told they cannot release this number to me.

edit - I use each months statements new balance #.
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Originally Posted by Illinwu
I have been using a spreadsheet to tack monthly spending since day 1; the EQN numbers (calculated from the running total) recently does not match what was posted by Hyatt. Wondering whether others encountered the same issue. I called Chase to inquire the running total but was told they cannot release this number to me.

edit - I use each months statements new balance #.
Have you made any payments before the statement period closes that would reduce the statement balance? Are you excluding the annual fee from your calculations? For me, the best way to keep track is to use the spending planner feature on chase and subtracting out the annual fee.
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How do Chase Offer credits impact the running total?
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Originally Posted by yorkcec
… I completed the 15K spend about 1.5 weeks ago and nothing hit my account. I contacted Chase via SM and they just said to wait the 4-8 weeks.
Should be credited to your WHO account 1-2 days after statement date on which you completed the $15K. Sounds like Rules # 2 and 3 of (my vision of) FF World apply to your experience:

2: The odds of being given correct and accurate information by a telephone credit card/airline/hotel representative are 50/50 (and that’s being generous).
3: The odds of being given correct and accurate information by a live airline or hotel representative are 51/49 (still generous).

Originally Posted by notquiteaff
How do Chase Offer credits impact the running total?
Similar to returns not decreasing (affecting, impacting) the calculation of spend for AmEx minimum spends, maybe Chase also, I don’t believe Chase credits affect any spend requirements.

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Although I’m pretty OCD/anal/compulsive my experience has been that whenever I think I’ve reached a spend or stay threshold and the issuer or program disagrees, it’s my mistake or erroneous assumption. I do these calculations very rarely compared to how often they do, they programed the computer and (as the saying goes) they hold all the cards* (pun intended).

(* “Hold All The Cards”: idiom, to be in a strong position when you are competing with someone else, because you have all the advantages, to be in control of a situation and have the power to make decisions.)
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Originally Posted by Clemson
Have you made any payments before the statement period closes that would reduce the statement balance? Are you excluding the annual fee from your calculations? For me, the best way to keep track is to use the spending planner feature on chase and subtracting out the annual fee.
I subtract the annual fee. Made a payment prior to statement closing one time; and I made an adjustment for that.
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Another off-topic digression.
Originally Posted by Dr Jabadski
[...]
Although Im pretty OCD/anal/compulsive my experience has been that whenever I think Ive [calculated something or other ...]
Not that I'd wish it on you, but I'm glad it's not just me. When I was a youngster, an acquaintance boasted of never balancing a checking account: "I've got people for that." (People, in this context, was the bank.) In the decades since, I have spent countless hours balancing checkbooks, tracking spending, and doing things that other People (namely, the banks) were doing too. In all that time, I know I have gained at least $10 that the banks would have kept if I hadn't caught them. Let's see, that works out to ... something under 1 per hour, I think, that I have earned. At least it was tax-free.
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Originally Posted by Illinwu
I have been using a spreadsheet to tack monthly spending since day 1; the EQN numbers (calculated from the running total) recently does not match what was posted by Hyatt. Wondering whether others encountered the same issue. I called Chase to inquire the running total but was told they cannot release this number to me.

edit - I use each month’s statement’s “new balance” #.
From your monthly statement under Account Summary, the number listed for "Purchases" increases your running count.
If on the mobile app, under See All Transactions, filter by transaction type, I've confirmed that anything under "Return" should be subtracted from your running total.

So basically the formula for running count is : New Count = Previous Count + Purchases - Return

Edit: If you want to calculate this from scratch and have access to all your statements, then simply add every value under Purchases without regard to any other value in your statement. Then filter by Return, subtract all those values and you should have your current running count. Use the formula above to continue calculating it or simply keep a column for returns. Previously I mentioned Fee as a filter, but because they never fall under purchases they are already excluded from the running count. Subtracting them again would be an error.

I track my spend via an excel sheet and I can predict my next $5k threshold to within a few dollars.
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Last edited by kevinjm; Oct 13, 2023 at 4:53 pm Reason: clarified formula, removed fees
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Originally Posted by kevinjm
From your monthly statement under Account Summary, the number listed for "Purchases" increases your running count.
If on the mobile app, under See All Transactions, filter by transaction type, I've confirmed that anything under "Return" should be subtracted from your running total.

So basically the formula for running count is : New Count = Previous Count + Purchases - Return

Edit: If you want to calculate this from scratch and have access to all your statements, then simply add every value under Purchases without regard to any other value in your statement. Then filter by Return, subtract all those values and you should have your current running count. Use the formula above to continue calculating it or simply keep a column for returns. Previously I mentioned Fee as a filter, but because they never fall under purchases they are already excluded from the running count. Subtracting them again would be an error.

I track my spend via an excel sheet and I can predict my next $5k threshold to within a few dollars.
For the 1st time, I read my recent statement carefully. Depends on timing, returns in the same period goes to payment, so I should not assume if purchase = new balance I dont need to go to the payment/credit section. Thank you for the help.

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