Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
May 10, 2023 | 1:09 pm
#7471
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke on Trent, UK (MAN ), BUE, BKK, DBV
Programs: LH HON***,UA,BA.EK Gold,AV.
Posts: 16,523
You will arrive & depart in T1 @ FRA, as easy as FRA gets & lots of lounges, just use the lounge nearest to your departure gate in A
May 14, 2023 | 1:31 pm
#7472
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: United, Southwest
Posts: 731
(I love FlyerTalk . . )
Connection later this year on a UA Polais flight from IAH to a LH (biz) flight to Bergen, Norway. I have about 3 hours.
Question: Do I only go through Immigration OR do I have to go through a Security check as well? Wondering if I should empty my water bottle before getting in line for whatever I need to get in line for. Thank you! Looks like UA arrives in Terminal 1 and LH departs from the same Terminal.
And which Lounge can I use? Coming FROM Non-Schengen but TO Schengen.
Many many thanks . . . .
Connection later this year on a UA Polais flight from IAH to a LH (biz) flight to Bergen, Norway. I have about 3 hours.
Question: Do I only go through Immigration OR do I have to go through a Security check as well? Wondering if I should empty my water bottle before getting in line for whatever I need to get in line for. Thank you! Looks like UA arrives in Terminal 1 and LH departs from the same Terminal.
And which Lounge can I use? Coming FROM Non-Schengen but TO Schengen.
Many many thanks . . . .
May 14, 2023 | 2:08 pm
#7473
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: United, Southwest
Posts: 731
Thank you thank you! First traveled to Europe in the 70's and I still don't 'get' the Schengen thing when it comes to airports. So after Immigration I am in the Schengen Zone so would use the Schengen Lounge. Got it. On the return through FRA . . . since I am flying TO IAD, that would mean I would use the Schengen Lounge?? No ********'s.
Thanks again . . . . Not sure I will be all that 'clean' after two flights and 5 hours in the IAH Lounge, but I hope so?
Thanks again . . . . Not sure I will be all that 'clean' after two flights and 5 hours in the IAH Lounge, but I hope so?
May 14, 2023 | 4:37 pm
#7474
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Stuck on this planet - mainly in STR and LAX
Posts: 5,032
Thank you thank you! First traveled to Europe in the 70's and I still don't 'get' the Schengen thing when it comes to airports. So after Immigration I am in the Schengen Zone so would use the Schengen Lounge. Got it. On the return through FRA . . . since I am flying TO IAD, that would mean I would use the Schengen Lounge?? No ********'s.
Thanks again . . . . Not sure I will be all that 'clean' after two flights and 5 hours in the IAH Lounge, but I hope so?
Thanks again . . . . Not sure I will be all that 'clean' after two flights and 5 hours in the IAH Lounge, but I hope so?
General rule: If arriving from a clean country (like US, Schengen....) you normally (but there are exceptions) don't need to go security in Europe.
There is a passport control between the Schengen area and the non-Schengen gates.
There are lounges both in the Schengen and the non-Schengen area. You should go to the closest lounge in the area where you depart from.
May 14, 2023 | 11:51 pm
#7475
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: many
Posts: 7,235
Thank you thank you! First traveled to Europe in the 70's and I still don't 'get' the Schengen thing when it comes to airports. So after Immigration I am in the Schengen Zone so would use the Schengen Lounge. Got it. On the return through FRA . . . since I am flying TO IAD, that would mean I would use the Schengen Lounge?? No ********'s.
Thanks again . . . . Not sure I will be all that 'clean' after two flights and 5 hours in the IAH Lounge, but I hope so?
Thanks again . . . . Not sure I will be all that 'clean' after two flights and 5 hours in the IAH Lounge, but I hope so?
Concerning your water bottle question (applies to return trip only): There is no consistency at the moment in Europe. Some airports have the new machines (FRA, FCO etc.) that allow you to leave liquids, even larger bottles, and electronics in your bag. Many other airports still ask you to remove your electronics and liquids from your bag; there you need to empty larger water bottles and can only take liquids in very small containers (up to 3 Oz) in a small plastic bag, as has been the rule for many years now in many parts of the world including the US.
Enjoy your flight.
May 15, 2023 | 7:52 am
#7476
Join Date: Apr 2023
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Gold, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold, IHG Platinum, Best Western Diamond
Posts: 43
LHR-FRA-CDG Connection
I am flying LH from LHR-FRA-CDG this July. The LH website only sold me short connections.
I have a 75 minute connection as my flight from LHR arrives at 11:05am and the CDG flight leaves at 12:20pm. Will that be too tight for a connection (cannot change as LH only giving me 50-80 minute connections)? What happens if I cant make the connection? Will I need to pass through security in addition to passport control?
Note Im not an EU citizen and traveling on a USA passport.
I have a 75 minute connection as my flight from LHR arrives at 11:05am and the CDG flight leaves at 12:20pm. Will that be too tight for a connection (cannot change as LH only giving me 50-80 minute connections)? What happens if I cant make the connection? Will I need to pass through security in addition to passport control?
Note Im not an EU citizen and traveling on a USA passport.
May 15, 2023 | 8:21 am
#7477
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I am flying LH from LHR-FRA-CDG this July. The LH website only sold me short connections.
I have a 75 minute connection as my flight from LHR arrives at 11:05am and the CDG flight leaves at 12:20pm. Will that be too tight for a connection (cannot change as LH only giving me 50-80 minute connections)? What happens if I can’t make the connection? Will I need to pass through security in addition to passport control?
Note I’m not an EU citizen and traveling on a USA passport.
I have a 75 minute connection as my flight from LHR arrives at 11:05am and the CDG flight leaves at 12:20pm. Will that be too tight for a connection (cannot change as LH only giving me 50-80 minute connections)? What happens if I can’t make the connection? Will I need to pass through security in addition to passport control?
Note I’m not an EU citizen and traveling on a USA passport.
Last edited by Fabo.sk; May 15, 2023 at 9:02 am
May 15, 2023 | 8:38 am
#7478
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: United, Southwest
Posts: 731
Think of Schengen like a big domestic Zone.
General rule: If arriving from a clean country (like US, Schengen....) you normally (but there are exceptions) don't need to go security in Europe.
There is a passport control between the Schengen area and the non-Schengen gates.
There are lounges both in the Schengen and the non-Schengen area. You should go to the closest lounge in the area where you depart from.
General rule: If arriving from a clean country (like US, Schengen....) you normally (but there are exceptions) don't need to go security in Europe.
There is a passport control between the Schengen area and the non-Schengen gates.
There are lounges both in the Schengen and the non-Schengen area. You should go to the closest lounge in the area where you depart from.
May 15, 2023 | 8:40 am
#7479
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Join Date: Jul 2015
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LHR (and the whole of UK and Ireland) is not part of the Schengen zone, keep in mind. So that will be an international arrival.
May 15, 2023 | 2:23 pm
#7480
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: United, Southwest
Posts: 731
That I DO know! (UK, Ireland) It's a nested trip so not as concerned - I will have the time. The BNA - IAD - FRA - BGO and return is a little more of an adventure. Winter, departing over Thanksgiving weekend, and a need to be in BGO to catch a boat/ship/tub. In the 'old days' we always took the train. Flying was way too expensive inside Europe. Once from London to Interlaken, Switzerland, I took the train to the coast and an overnight ferry to the Netherlands and a train through Germany to get to Switzerland. Now it's a 2 hour flight . . . . THANKS AGAIN, ALL!
May 15, 2023 | 3:11 pm
#7481
Join Date: May 2023
Posts: 4
We will have a 5:50 connection between flights DEN-FRA(LH) and FRA-FLR (Air Dolomiti) on the same itinerary. We have Priority Pass and we want to
go to Priority Lounge or Primeclass (both in Terminal 2 non-Schengen). We have a couple of questions :
1. United app navigation suggests that we take SkyLine to the T2 (looks like, there is no any security on the way).
But FRA website navigation shows that we need just walk between terminals (I am not sure if we need to go landside in this case).
I read about SkyLine restrictions but it looks like the train for transfer between terminals (non-Shengen) continues to operate as usual
and the United app gives a better option than the FRA website. Is this correct?
Is it even possible to go from T1 to T2 staying in a non-Schengen?
2. What is the best way to go back to our departure gate in Terminal 1, most likely Gates B1-B6.
The United App suggests going through immigration/customs on T2 and taking the train to Concourse B. But, as I understand,
the train on landside does not operate until June, so do we take the shuttle from T2 to T1 instead of train (landside) or we just go back to T1(B) non-Schengen and go
through immigration/customs there. What is the better, more efficient option? How much time do we need to reserve for that transfer?
Thanks.
go to Priority Lounge or Primeclass (both in Terminal 2 non-Schengen). We have a couple of questions :
1. United app navigation suggests that we take SkyLine to the T2 (looks like, there is no any security on the way).
But FRA website navigation shows that we need just walk between terminals (I am not sure if we need to go landside in this case).
I read about SkyLine restrictions but it looks like the train for transfer between terminals (non-Shengen) continues to operate as usual
and the United app gives a better option than the FRA website. Is this correct?
Is it even possible to go from T1 to T2 staying in a non-Schengen?
2. What is the best way to go back to our departure gate in Terminal 1, most likely Gates B1-B6.
The United App suggests going through immigration/customs on T2 and taking the train to Concourse B. But, as I understand,
the train on landside does not operate until June, so do we take the shuttle from T2 to T1 instead of train (landside) or we just go back to T1(B) non-Schengen and go
through immigration/customs there. What is the better, more efficient option? How much time do we need to reserve for that transfer?
Thanks.
May 15, 2023 | 3:23 pm
#7482
Join Date: May 2018
Location: FRA
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 1,935
We will have a 5:50 connection between flights DEN-FRA(LH) and FRA-FLR (Air Dolomiti) on the same itinerary. We have Priority Pass and we want to
go to Priority Lounge or Primeclass (both in Terminal 2 non-Schengen). We have a couple of questions :
1. United app navigation suggests that we take SkyLine to the T2 (looks like, there is no any security on the way).
But FRA website navigation shows that we need just walk between terminals (I am not sure if we need to go landside in this case).
I read about SkyLine restrictions but it looks like the train for transfer between terminals (non-Shengen) continues to operate as usual
and the United app gives a better option than the FRA website. Is this correct?
Is it even possible to go from T1 to T2 staying in a non-Schengen?
2. What is the best way to go back to our departure gate in Terminal 1, most likely Gates B1-B6.
The United App suggests going through immigration/customs on T2 and taking the train to Concourse B. But, as I understand,
the train on landside does not operate until June, so do we take the shuttle from T2 to T1 instead of train (landside) or we just go back to T1(B) non-Schengen and go
through immigration/customs there. What is the better, more efficient option? How much time do we need to reserve for that transfer?
go to Priority Lounge or Primeclass (both in Terminal 2 non-Schengen). We have a couple of questions :
1. United app navigation suggests that we take SkyLine to the T2 (looks like, there is no any security on the way).
But FRA website navigation shows that we need just walk between terminals (I am not sure if we need to go landside in this case).
I read about SkyLine restrictions but it looks like the train for transfer between terminals (non-Shengen) continues to operate as usual
and the United app gives a better option than the FRA website. Is this correct?
Is it even possible to go from T1 to T2 staying in a non-Schengen?
2. What is the best way to go back to our departure gate in Terminal 1, most likely Gates B1-B6.
The United App suggests going through immigration/customs on T2 and taking the train to Concourse B. But, as I understand,
the train on landside does not operate until June, so do we take the shuttle from T2 to T1 instead of train (landside) or we just go back to T1(B) non-Schengen and go
through immigration/customs there. What is the better, more efficient option? How much time do we need to reserve for that transfer?
On the way back, follow the signs for Z, take the skyline train again, go through transit security, then follow the signs for A, go through passport control. If you depart from B there is a tunnel you can take between A15 and A17.
May 15, 2023 | 3:56 pm
#7483
Join Date: May 2023
Posts: 4
Thanks.
As I understand, we will need to clear transfer security too when we come back to Z right after the train, right? Is it supposed to be faster than going through security B(West) landside?
Our connecting flight suppose to departs at 4:50pm. What time do we need to start going back?
As I understand, we will need to clear transfer security too when we come back to Z right after the train, right? Is it supposed to be faster than going through security B(West) landside?
Our connecting flight suppose to departs at 4:50pm. What time do we need to start going back?
May 15, 2023 | 4:07 pm
#7484
Join Date: Jul 2016
Programs: United, Southwest
Posts: 731
Wow . . FRA sounds complicated! Good luck mitvel!
May 15, 2023 | 10:50 pm
#7485
Join Date: May 2018
Location: FRA
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 1,935
You'll then need some kind of transit security on your return to T1.
Is it supposed to be faster than going through security B(West) landside?
In order to do security in T1B you first need to go through passport control and there is no way to do that that is not convoluted and extra walking. Your options would be:
- Passport control in T2, exit landside, take the train to B, go through security. Sounds simpler but more walking.
- Take the train first back to B, follow the signs for B, passport control, then either transit security if it's open or landside and re-enter at B security. Both circuitous and more walking.
Our connecting flight suppose to departs at 4:50pm. What time do we need to start going back?