I made a quick comparison of my flights 2022 with the LH group. Not counting flights on SQ, UA etc.

With the current system I achieved ~260k HON miles (not counting covid bonus); roughly 87% of what is needed for the HON (considering 300k per year).
In the new system this would have yielded in 4560 HON qualyfing points; roughly 76% of the required 6000 needed for the HON qualification.

This is based on:
8 intercontinental flights in First = 8x300=2400
8 intercontinental flights in Business = 8x200=1600
14 continental flights in Business = 14x40=560

Again, not counting all my flights on non LH group airlines and obviously also ignoring (shorthaul) flights in economy.

Conclusion:
With this flying pattern it will become more difficult for me to requalify for HON.

How does it look for you guys?

Quite bad, I am among the worst hit by the changes, as I usually fly "very" longhaul (EZE, BOG, MEX, GRU, JNB), but almost exclusively in Y or Y+. No way for me to reach SEN under the new system, where a semi-flex ticket to EZE earns the same as the cheapest one to TLV. Already working on an exit/transition strategy.

Same here. Most of my flights are long (SIN, NRT/HND, EZE, US West Coast, etc.) and/or expensive, so I get maximally screwed/shafted/pick your favorite swearword by the new system.

Even considered giving more business to dreaded AF.

Corp. travel policy stipulates Y or PE (only if booked more than one month out) - regardless of destination. No exceptions. Looking at my travel patterns pre C19 (where I made SEN without any problem) I will be able to barely make FTL under the new system. Barely...

Further disadvantage for me (from my personal point of view) - I am living in and travelling from a LH hub. Therefore shifting travel is hard if you want to avoid extra connections.
Switching to another *A FFP with *G will mean no more lounge access for the entire family when travelling, no more SEN WL and no more companion awards. These are the biggest downsides for me and us.

Why couldn't they have just left it as it was? Why fix something if it's not broken?

Well the old system was messy and complex. Why should I need to use a travel agent (an outdated job if ever there was one) to get the booking class I need? It�s not like you can select it on the website... I remain keen to see the new system introduced. It�s not perfect and the famous LH meanness is in evidence, but I for one find it better than the old one...

Some win, some lose. Those who win tend to find the new system better ...

Indeed... I know which side I am on. I recall a statement from CS during the FT/VFT Kamingespr�ch in FRA in 2015 (?) where he said: "if you are a best buyer I will be act as best seller." I guess I will act accordingly, considering the constraints I have mentioned before.

We are working on draining the mileage pool. Burned (burning) 850k miles since May 2022.

I've looked at my flight patterns from last year (50 segments in total, 48 of them in a mix of short-haul eco/P/Z/D and 2 intercontinental in LH P) and under the new system I'd make 1680 points (nearly all of them qualifying points) which would put me nearly 85% towards SEN (with just one journey to TLV in P class needed to get over the threshold ) .

Under the current system I barely made it over the 100k miles threshold thanks to the various bonuses (double miles in Q1, 1.5 miles in Q2 and 3k bonus at the end of the year) - without them I'd be closer to 60-65k. So it looks as though the new system is more beneficial to me. However, I still think it makes less sense than the current one (I mean the fact that FRA-TLV in P give you the same number of miles as FRA-EZE in J is just mind-boggling).

Which also means you would have to do all that flying plus the extra trip to TLV in P every year just to renew SEN. If LH introduced rollover miles, it would some sense to me.

True, however under the current system (not taking into account the 2022 bonuses which were always intended as a temporary feature) I'd probably need extra 10 RT FRA-TLV trips in P.

Of course the huge advantage of the current system is that you get the status for at least 2 years.

My pre-Covid strategy to keep SEN was to buy a F RTW ticket and use it for Asia-Europe-Africa-Europe-America-Asia. Ex Japan or Korea it was in the range of 10-12.000 USD and got me where I needed to go. Such a ticket provided over 100.000 status miles for triple miles in F, enough for SEN when done inside one calendar year.

Otherwise I just used the airline which had best schedule / comfort / price for my trips.

Now such a RTW would give 1500 Points for the 5 F segments and then 200-320 Points for the 5-8 continental C flights. Not enough for SEN and also every year and not every second year.

SEN is less valuable for me now since they closed the lounge on my home airport, it is getting more difficult to get F award tickets and impossible to find two F seats for the companion award. Not sure if it makes sense to chase SEN in the future.

I recalculated my 2023 flights: 104000 miles (2 years SEN) vs 2000 points (1 year SEN) – mostly Asia (class A, F, Z, D). Lufthansa in the new scheme will reward short flights in low class. I will burn my miles and vouchers until the end of my status and will have to consider switching to another program, especially that recently as a SEN I can't find first class award flights or upgrades.

I suspect the SAS site struggles with the feeder being in a mid Economy RBD and not SEN? Did you try with SEN in the PNR?
It shouldn't as its "Business Semi/Flex operated in Economy" but then, its not Basia's problem with that site.

Btw, if you'll forgive me, I thought it was interesting as G is flying a typical LO discounted Europe C ticket:

Someone flying LO F (feeder is always S on domestic) to renew SEN for two years now:

GDN-WAW 313
WAW-Europe 1563
3752 total status miles

26.6 returns to SEN

If done on LH Group in P:
GDN-LH Hub 938
LH Hub-Europe 938
3752 total (identical)

Identical to LO, therefore no shooting in foot to be loyal to LO except for lack of C on domestic plus arguably offset by more award miles due to RBD calc.

From next year, LO trip:

GDN-WAW 20 points
WAW-Europe 40 points
Return 120 points/QP

16.6 such returns to SEN

Same trip done with LH in "P"
GDN-LH Hub 40 points
LH Hub-Europe 40 points
Return 160 points/QP

SEN in 12.5 such returns

Fares are basically identical. LH you get C on all the trip, LO you have it on half the trip.

LO are really screwed. M&M a joke for the LO -PL traveller. Basia must have been on the Jack Rabbit when she signed this off. The only way it can be addressed is by adding C on domestic.

By the way, just for interest, done for Economy in Europe:

Highly profitable Y/B/M pax on LH Group,16 returns.
Highly profitable Y/B pax (leaving out M) on LO, 17.7 returns

From 2024: 25 returns in any RBD, no matter if super expensive Y/B(M)... LOL

Those high fares credited to some other FFP for *G would be a fraction of SEN, meanwhile you make the airline more money. Comical.

D, cracking analysis there and saves me from doing all the maths, thanks (admittedly, I hadn't really made any particular effort to look at the new earning rules). That being said and on a wider reflection, it is painfully obvious that, this year just gone, I was able to get above the threshold mostly thanks to the generous F fares from our favourite Warsaw-based carrier, this despite the ridicolous amount of flying (which got me sick by the end of the year and clearly showed the difficulty in terms of attaining status that "matters" through M&M, at least for "short-haul commuters" like myself). As your helpful input goes to show, things should get slightly easier as of this year (clearly not for those travelling LOT from the "regions" and I do agree with you on the shooting themselves in the foot...). P.S.: C fares significantly up as opposed to last year, when Basia (even in the middle of the summer) would kindly offer a return trip from/to my usual ports as low as 300 GBP...

G