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AU Govt (03 Jul 2022)-->All COVID-19 border restrictions to be lifted

The AU federal and state govt web sites are the *only* source of information.
Links smartraveller.gov.au
Update to new measures for return to Australia
COVID-19: Re-entry and quarantine measures

In addition State/territory authority may be needed.
What is in effect at any time can be hard to determine. Can change at short notice.

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Old Oct 4, 2021 | 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by freed0m
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/worl...l-2022-2221996

no international tourists this year.

Australians, then skilled migrants and students

From that link:

The Australian Tourism Export Council, which represents a sector that made A$45 billion (US$33 billion) a year from international tourists before the pandemic, wants international visitors to return by March.

Australia is racing to inoculate its population as an outbreak of the more contagious delta variant that began in Sydney in June continues to spread.

Victoria state on Tuesday reported a national record 1,763 new local infections. Australia’s second-most populous state also reported four COVID-19 deaths.

The previous national record of 1,599 infections in 24 hours was set by New South Wales when its outbreak peaked on Sep 10.
Even March may be too optimistic if they don't get the infection numbers down. Especially at a time of reaching high vaccination percentages.

Still, after February, they may not draw too many visitors since the weather starts to turn?
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 1:24 pm
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Originally Posted by exp
From that link:



Even March may be too optimistic if they don't get the infection numbers down. Especially at a time of reaching high vaccination percentages.

Still, after February, they may not draw too many visitors since the weather starts to turn?
If I was asked to guess I'd say by March there will tourism. Probably not to every state and likely to only be initially from countries that are benchmarking to a certain daily case number. I think part of the ban is to do with logistics and optics. The federal government has an election coming and they are well behind in the polls. There are currently a limited number of flights into Australia and a lot of Australians who want to come home or go overseas to visit relatives (like me). Having headlines in the papers about Aussies being priced out of airline tickets by tourists will not to do the government any favours.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 1:28 pm
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I would imagine if Australia opened up for tourism, the carriers will add a lot more flights.

A few years ago, Quantas was advertising like $500 fares from SFO and LAX so we'll probably get some of that.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 1:41 pm
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I would imagine if Australia opened up for tourism, the carriers will add a lot more flights.
A lot of ground staff have been stood down or let go in the last 18 months, especially after JobKeeper ended. Building back capacity won't be like flicking on a switch. The government's priority at this point is the same promise they made last year: Every Australian wanting to be home will be home by Christmas.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 4:37 pm
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As a vaccinated Australian citizenship living in the USA I was able to travel to England in July and quarrantine at the home of a friend who chooses not to be vaccinated. Then travel round Wales. Travel to Majorca and travel round the island all without quarrantining. Testing negative for each test taken.

However, I have not seen my 80 year old father, none of my siblings, nieces and nephews and none of my friends who live there since July 2019.

I am not willing to pay $3,000 to pay in a government mandated hotel. Presumably used to ensure the hotel operators have replacement revenue from tourists. New facilities being built? No intention to pay to stay in one.

I stay with family and friends. They have spare second homes where I could quarrantine, but lottery as to whether I would be chosen and I refuse to pay what I consider a ransom to see my friends and family.

Much frustration with the current approach by the federal government and administered by the state governments.

Also, the need to "apply" to leave the country. I am not a prisoner on parole. I am not a slave and have freedom of movement. Obviously not in Australia. Ridiculous system that I refuse to participate in so may never get to see my father in this life again. However, I am just a regular person, not a profesional athlete, not in the movie/entertainment industry, not wealthy enough or have enough connections to avoid the quarrantine hotels and to leave the country.

There are many Aussies stuck overseas without the security of income and shelter and unable to get back to Australia.

You better believe the current government is unpopular. The Opposition does not need to promise much, just sit back and say little.

End of vent.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 4:57 pm
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06 Oct 2021 (abc.net.au)---->Qantas's longest-ever commercial flight bringing stranded Australians home from Buenos Aires
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  • The 18-hour flight from Argentina will touch down in Darwin this evening
  • It will make Darwin airport the first in the country to receive non-stop flights from all six continents
  • An announcement on the possibility of rerouting Qantas' London flight through Darwin is expected within days
A COVID-19 repatriation flight due to arrive in Darwin from Buenos Aires tonight will set a new record for the longest commercial flight ever operated by Qantas.

Passengers will be in the air for nearly 18 hours before touching down at Darwin Airport this evening, after travelling 14,683 kilometres. "It is just under 200 kilometres longer than the [Perth-to-London] flight, which currently holds the record for Qantas," aviation analyst Bruce Dale said. The flight also marks a milestone moment for Darwin Airport, which will become the first airport in Australia — and one of very few in the world — to receive non-stop flights from all six continents.
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QF newsroom -QANTAS REPATRIATION FLIGHT LANDS IN HISTORY BOOKS
A record breaking repatriation flight has flown 15,020 kilometres from Buenos Aires to Darwin and touched down after 17 hours and 25 minutes in the air.

Since March 2020 the airline has operated hundreds of charter and repatriation flights of behalf of the Australian Government to bring Australians home during the COVID19 pandemic, flying to 31 destinations overseas, including 19 that aren’t part of the airline’s regular network.

QF14 carried 107 passengers and flew non-stop from Buenos Aires to Darwin. The flight was 522 kilometres further than the airlines regular scheduled non-stop Perth to London flights which took off in March 2018 before they were paused due to the closure of Australia’s international border
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 5:34 pm
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BTW, saw a headline that Djokovic, the #1 tennis player and the defending Australian Open champion, may not be able to play in the next Australian Open because Victoria may impose a vaccine mandate.

Djokovic has had covid and refuses to get vaccinated.

Hope Victoria and/or Melbourne sticks to their guns.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by exp
BTW, saw a headline that Djokovic, the #1 tennis player and the defending Australian Open champion, may not be able to play in the next Australian Open because Victoria may impose a vaccine mandate.
Djokovic has had covid and refuses to get vaccinated.
Hope Victoria and/or Melbourne sticks to their guns.
Not 100% sure, but think I have read that unvaccinated non citizens or people with an unapproved vaccine, will not be allowed into AU. Not all the worlds vaccines have been approved. {will search for reference}
Non vaccinated AU citizens will be allowed entry. Unsure about AU permanent residents, of which there are many 10's of thousands.
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 9:03 pm
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I have been to all seven continents, not sure why they mention "all six continents" 🤔
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 11:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Aussienarelle
I have been to all seven continents, not sure why they mention "all six continents" 🤔
Think they've corrected it to "six permanently inhabited continents"
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Old Oct 5, 2021 | 11:46 pm
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Not all the worlds vaccines have been approved. {will search for reference}
Sinovac and Covidshield are the only vaccines not currently approved for use in Australia but recognised for the purpose of vaccinated status by the TGA.

For reference the four vaccines currently approved for use in Australia are AZ, Pfizer, J&J and Moderna.

https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-vacc...ce-recognition
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 12:17 am
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Covidshield is AZ by another manufacturer?

TGA cited Sinovac's Effectiveness against severe infection/hospitalisation in granting recognition https://www.tga.gov.au/covid-19-vacc...e-recognition; though (I think, as a lay person) if they're granting recognition on Effectiveness alone, Australia needs to pass the stated vaccination threshold (80%?) first.
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 11:14 am
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Can anyone help me find info on my scenario I'm considering:
I am a dual Australian/Canadian citizen
I am fully vaccinated with Pfizer (since June 13).
I live in Canada but would like to visit my getting to be elderly relatives in Australia in January just in case.
I do not have a home in Australia, but I could quarantine in a friends place they don't use by myself. Or, I would be willing to consider a one week quarantine in a hotel if that's an available option if it's not stupidly expensive. I can't even come to Australia for that long (just 12 days) but it would at least let me see them.
I have business and first tickets booked to go to Australia (I have a Korean and ANA booking to, both miles will cancel one or the other) and a First booking on the way home (Emirates), so I am ready to go.

Does anyone know if this scenario is going to work in the post November world or specifically what the rules around the "home quarantine" will be? I haven't really been able to find anything and that might well be because it hasn't been decided yet but I was wondering if anyone's heard any rumours or found anything I've missed somehow. Of course eventually Australia will likely look at the research here in Canada (once we were 80% of 12+ and tourists were allowed in it has not changed our COVID rates) and get rid of quarantine if fully vaxxed all together, but I don't know if that will happen before January when I want to come so I am sort of pondering. I welcome any thoughts or comments, rumors and conjecture or facts :-)
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Old Oct 6, 2021 | 1:00 pm
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No one knows what the situation will be in Jan 2022. The fine details of the "home quarantine" have not been published. Will be different state to state and will have a cost. The states have far more control than federal. The 14 days state run hotel quarantine costs ~$3000. (not the same cost for all states)
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Originally Posted by atsak
Does anyone know if this scenario is going to work in the post November world or specifically what the rules around the "home quarantine" will be? I haven't really been able to find anything and that might well be because it hasn't been decided yet but I was wondering if anyone's heard any rumours or found anything I've missed somehow. Of course eventually Australia will likely look at the research here in Canada (once we were 80% of 12+ and tourists were allowed in it has not changed our COVID rates) and get rid of quarantine if fully vaxxed all together, but I don't know if that will happen before January when I want to come so I am sort of pondering. I welcome any thoughts or comments, rumors and conjecture or facts :-)
Good luck. I'm in a similar situation and am waiting for more details to emerge. The scant details seem to be if you don't have your own home you can quarantine in, you are stuck with the hotel program. This is not an improvement for many people in our shoes. It doesn't change anything for those still stranded abroad or that want to come back to see the families we have been separated from for years. It only helps the people that are resident in Australia and want to (and now can) leave, travel abroad, and return home.
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