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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by WindFlyer
I flew SFO-JFK last month on a 757 ( ), and on arrival at JFK we disembarked via door 1L...

Don't know if this was standard practice for JFK as this was my first time into JFK on a 757.

the same thing happened to me on 28 when i arrived on sunday morning oct., 10th. it caught the f/a's by surprise so i think it might have been a jet bridge issue as when i looked at the nose gear thru the terminal window, it was dead on.....
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by BillKach
I'm sitting at the RCC at SAN and just saw a 757 from ORD deplane through 1L at gate 18. They do usually use 2L here. Maybe it is because of the proximity of the gate to the main terminal building.

I also flew DEN-SEA in August and it boarded through 1L. The Pursor, who was a long time flight attendant mentioned that the gate we were at was one of a few (or maybe the only one?) were they had to use 1L on the 757. I want to say it was Gate 36, which does not have a gate next to it, so it may have a different jetway. It kind of sucked as we had F DEN-SEA and SEA-ORD and both were 757's that used 1L.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 12:50 am
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Originally Posted by JC5280
Do you remember which gate it was in DEN?
It was either B39 or B38, I can't remember.

So, here's another question: Why do we always board and deplane from the port (left) side of the plane? Is it just for consistency?
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 1:30 am
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Had door 1 on an LAX-SFO 757 flight this weekend. Don't remember the gate number but it was from the gates at the end of Continental's terminal 6, not the normal T7.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 7:01 am
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Gate N14 in SEA is configured so that 757's use door 1L.

The AA aircraft that boards through door 2L must have been ex-TWA. All of the AA configured 757's have seats adjacent to 2L, like UA has 8DE adjacent to door 2R, which would make boarding very cumbersome.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by pod
Had door 1 on an LAX-SFO 757 flight this weekend. Don't remember the gate number but it was from the gates at the end of Continental's terminal 6, not the normal T7.
Interesting - my LAX-MCO flight left from 68A and we used door 2L.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 10:10 am
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Just to give some perspective from this side of the pond, invariably BA always seem to board their 757's through 1L when using a jetway. Have used 2L but typically when we've used stairs.....

Very surprised to see people commenting that the door at 1L is harder to open (insofar as it being an issue for crew...)
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 3:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Swiss Tony
Very surprised to see people commenting that the door at 1L is harder to open (insofar as it being an issue for crew...)
In general, 757 doors (disarmed) are hard to open and have resulted, at least at UA, including several injuries to CSR's and changes to how CSR's are trained to open the doors.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by g_leyser
I flew DEN-ORD on Sunday Oct. 10th on a 757.
Having flown dozens of flights on UA's 757s, I remember ALWAYS boarding through the center door (2L). But for some reason, this flight boarded through 1L. Doesn't seem to be very efficient, as everyone had to walk through the 6 first class rows.
Why would they have done this, at DEN of all places?


Jetbridge positioning is based on where the A/C parks and the Jetbridges reach. When UA got the 757 all stations boarded on door 1L, is was later asked to repostion A/C parking to adjust to door 2L. This might be a gate that never was realigned.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 5:47 pm
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I can remember using 2L hundreds of times and 1L dozens of times.

Now that's a scientific and quantitative report!
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 6:02 pm
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Originally Posted by g_leyser
Why do we always board and deplane from the port (left) side of the plane? Is it just for consistency?
It is because the baggage holds are located on the right and the jetways and stairs would get in the way. Also, the galleys are located on the right of the plane (on narrowbodies) so that is where the catering and cleaning folks park their vehicles.

I have never boarded a 757 in a door other then 2L in the scores of times I have flown one.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by g_leyser
It was either B39 or B38, I can't remember.

So, here's another question: Why do we always board and deplane from the port (left) side of the plane? Is it just for consistency?

39 is on the North side, with few windows (because of the old Cust Svc Center) and only has one jetbridge. The envelope is big, but I think there is an issue with that gate's jetbridge so thats probably the one you used. B38 is on the southside (with lots of windows). Both are set up for widebodies, like B42, B36, B32, which are the only widebody gates.


Aircraft manufacturers have to make planes consistent to sell them to airlines. Few airports, if any, will have starboard side bridges, so there is your reason. SEA_tigger's response is true as well, but I am not sure which came first, the jetbridges or cargo hold locations, in this case.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:25 am
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Originally Posted by basenji
In general, 757 doors (disarmed) are hard to open and have resulted, at least at UA, including several injuries to CSR's and changes to how CSR's are trained to open the doors.
Note, of course, that if you're ever in an emergency and the doors are armed, that this won't be an issue -- the doors have power assist, so once you turn the handle they'll blow fully open. For this reason, be careful when opening the doors not to hold on or you could get injured as the door flies out.

Directly on topic, though, I know there's at least one gate at BOS where 1L boarding is required due to the jetbridge.

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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:44 am
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is door 1L truly _smaller_ than 2L?

Originally Posted by JC5280

Door 1 is an unsafe door to use for the reasons that fastair explained. It is a difficult door to open and close (employees have a higher risk of injury), it is smaller, and the boarding takes longer.

Not a practice that is supposed to take place. That aircraft is hard enough to board on time through door 2!
We're probably beating this to death far more than warranted, but...

In the hundreds of 752 flights I've made on UA, I've probably boarded thru 1L 10 times or so, and I'm surprised at the comment that the door is actualy physically smaller. Can that really be right? Think about it -- even if you've never boarded/deplaned thru 1L, you've stood there for hours and hours waiting for the F lav (at least, before 9/11). While I'm willing to agree that the entryway is more congested, is it truly a different door width?? It sure doesn't look that way.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Starman
is it truly a different door width?? It sure doesn't look that way.
Door 1L is a bit narrower than 2L.
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