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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 1:29 pm
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Presumably the CBP agent can't just check a box = pax X's GE has been cancelled??? The CBP agent must document a pax's faux pas.
A few routes to take with ombudsman:
(1)CBP agent was very rude when I interacted with him
(2))Playing "dumb", I received a notice of my GE rejection--why?
(3)Going in the other direction: "I may have questioned CBP too forcefully...I am sorry if I did."
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 6:36 pm
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Originally Posted by jcf27
According to your statement, you clearly confronted the agent by insisting on explanations. Guess who is going to wind under those circumstances. Persuasion, not insistence to obtain explanations, is the key to a favorable outcome under these circumstances.
Perhaps they should change the name of the program to "Amiable Traveler Program?"

Seriously, though, while one would not condone giving a hard to time CPB agents, or any official, revocation should be reserved for significant violations of the program.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 8:01 pm
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Originally Posted by nrr
Presumably the CBP agent can't just check a box = pax X's GE has been cancelled??? The CBP agent must document a pax's faux pas.
A few routes to take with ombudsman:
(1)CBP agent was very rude when I interacted with him
(2))Playing "dumb", I received a notice of my GE rejection--why?
(3)Going in the other direction: "I may have questioned CBP too forcefully...I am sorry if I did."
Others reading this thread can make additional comments.

1- NEVER do that. That's a subjective statement. No one is going to take you seriously. That's whining.
2- best approach and JUST the facts. short and straight to the point. I bet the OP did not pay attention to one important detail from the whole interaction.... the name of the agent It matters a lot when writing as it shows seriousness on the intentions and knowledge on the writers part.
3- NEVER do that either. That's also a subjective statement. No need for apologies.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 8:12 pm
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Originally Posted by jasflysalot
Yes it was when I was at the exit door and I was very confused. A lot of the standard signage that is visible for declare vs nothing to declare, was not visible at DFW and half the lights were out. You have to physically walk into the declared scanner room and around a divider before you see any signs. So I was partly asking because I've been randomly selected before and the response is "It's random selection we need you to go to this section"
your line from the agent - "It's random selection we need you to go to this section"
a potential reply to get out of there asap and without adverse consequence could have been.... "Sure officer (NAME!!!). I'm not familiar with this procedure, could you please assist me (guide me) on the next steps? Thank you (smile.)" The bottom line is to create a connection and show willingness to cooperate. Go with the flow and make the situation work on your favor.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by jcf27
your line from the agent - "It's random selection we need you to go to this section"
NO, Im saying thats what I was EXPECTING the response to be. Something along that line, not I dont have to tell you anything, which is the response I got.

DFW Custom Terminal is under renovations, so its not clear where you are when exiting. They funnel everyone to the middle of the terminal to exit. Theres no signs and that evening more of the terminal was dark. As a woman traveling by myself its not wrong to ask whats happening, especially bc theres very little I can do after if anything goes wrong.

*edit: why are you assuming I dont know the officers name? I do, I took note of the time and my surroundings as soon as I walked out of the scan room. This is a public forum, what good does it do me to post the officers name here if I have any intent of appealing?

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Old Jun 20, 2018 | 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by jasflysalot


NO, Im saying thats what I was EXPECTING the response to be. Something along that line, not I dont have to tell you anything, which is the response I got.

DFW Custom Terminal is under renovations, so its not clear where you are when exiting. They funnel everyone to the middle of the terminal to exit. Theres no signs and that evening more of the terminal was dark. As a woman traveling by myself its not wrong to ask whats happening, especially bc theres very little I can do after if anything goes wrong.

*edit: why are you assuming I dont know the officers name? I do, I took note of the time and my surroundings as soon as I walked out of the scan room. This is a public forum, what good does it do me to post the officers name here if I have any intent of appealing?
It's expected to ask for directions and assistance in situations like that. I'm sorry; you took unnecessary risks by insisting on explanations after you got your unexpected answer. I know the outcome is upsetting. I would be too.

My assumption on the officer's name was on the fact that you posted lots of unnecessary details except the fact that you got the officer's name for future reference. I put my statements in quotes to show what could be potential statements in that situation - "Sure officer (NAME!!!)...." translates to "Sure officer (you acknowledging the officer by name)" I never said or implied to post the name of the officer online.
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Old Jun 20, 2018 | 2:28 pm
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For those subject to GE revocation, the constituent services staff of your US Senators or Representatives can be an additional channel to try to get GE membership status reinstated. Its worked for some.
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Old Jun 20, 2018 | 7:05 pm
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For those subject to GE revocation, the constituent services staff of your US Senators or Representatives can be an additional channel to try to get GE membership status reinstated. Its worked for some.
Like apple girl, a multiple offender?
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Old Jun 20, 2018 | 11:49 pm
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Like apple girl, a multiple offender?
She too, yes.
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Old Jun 21, 2018 | 7:52 am
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CBP Officer here, willing to answer questions when I can about GE, but most things seem to be covered in this thread already.
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Old Jun 21, 2018 | 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by maninblack
CBP Officer here, willing to answer questions when I can about GE, but most things seem to be covered in this thread already.
Thank you for identifying yourself and your willingness to answering Global Entry questions.
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Old Jun 21, 2018 | 12:58 pm
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Exclamation Moderator's Note: Topic Drift

A recent question put to [MENTION=848667]maninblack[/MENTION] about Global Entry renewal and the reply were moved to the following thread:
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Old Aug 27, 2018 | 6:19 pm
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Do you have any tips on successfully applying for appeal of revocation?
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Old Nov 11, 2018 | 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by TWA884
A recent question put to [MENTION=848667]maninblack[/MENTION] about Global Entry renewal and the reply were moved to the following thread:
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This thread is about Global Entry revocations, not approvals of first time or renewal applications.

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For indexing and future search purposes, an additional question was moved over to the relevant thread (Global Entry - processing times of initial applications).

I'll just note that it's been more than two months since [MENTION=848667]maninblack[/MENTION] has posted on FlyerTalk and he has not logged on in over a month.

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Old Nov 11, 2018 | 9:14 pm
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[MENTION=848667]maninblack[/MENTION] Do you have any tips on successfully applying for appeal of revocation? Forgot to @ you the first time I posted this question
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