Aug 2, 2013, 6:51 pm
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A new thread was created for the new year in 2017. This is the old thread. For the 2017 on this topic, go here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manufactured-spending/1819562-cvs-master-thread-2017-a.html
CVS is cash only for all Incomm-related reloads and reloadable cards, including Vanilla Reloads and Serve swipe reloads. See memo to stores for complete list. Other cards at CVS can still be bought using credit, but YMMV depending on location, Manager, etc.
New limits rolling out starting 10/20:
Transactions with $300 or more of card face value require ID.
Limit $2000 of card face value per 24 hour rolling period.
Limit of 10 cards per 24 hours.
Cashback posted in 48 hours.
Cash Register Freezing
Multiple reports that the CVS cash register will freeze and lock after scanning the ID when purchasing multiple prepaid cards. Then the register's computer needs to be restarted. Some report that "swiping" the ID instead of "scanning" will avoid the issue.
Limit of 7 tenders (swipes) per transaction. This is most commonly run into when using low-value AGCs. After seven, the transaction must be complete, no cash (or any other payment method) will be accepted to pay the balance.
CVS is cash only for all Incomm-related reloads and reloadable cards, including Vanilla Reloads and Serve swipe reloads. See memo to stores for complete list. Other cards at CVS can still be bought using credit, but YMMV depending on location, Manager, etc.
New limits rolling out starting 10/20:
Transactions with $300 or more of card face value require ID.
Limit $2000 of card face value per 24 hour rolling period.
Limit of 10 cards per 24 hours.
Cashback posted in 48 hours.
Cash Register Freezing
Multiple reports that the CVS cash register will freeze and lock after scanning the ID when purchasing multiple prepaid cards. Then the register's computer needs to be restarted. Some report that "swiping" the ID instead of "scanning" will avoid the issue.
Limit of 7 tenders (swipes) per transaction. This is most commonly run into when using low-value AGCs. After seven, the transaction must be complete, no cash (or any other payment method) will be accepted to pay the balance.
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Dec 30, 2016 | 7:24 pm
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Wow, I can't believe I didn't think about this!
Dec 30, 2016 | 7:40 pm
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Being concerned about my DL info being accessible by a random CVS employee is certainly not being paranoid about it, it's just common sense. And yes, if my info was accessible by their employees and I knew this was the case, I'd probably stop buying things that require my ID being scanned; it's also none of your business.
Dec 30, 2016 | 7:42 pm
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Being concerned about my DL info being accessible by a random CVS employee is certainly not being paranoid about it, it's just common sense. And yes, if my info was accessible by their employees and I knew this was the case, I'd probably stop buying things that require my ID being scanned; it's also none of your business.
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> Every time you get on an airplane, you have to show some form of ID, usually a driver's license, to some random employee of TSA.
> Every time you have something notarized you have to show ID to some random notarizer. Of course, you do have to pay a fee to become a notary, not much else.
> Many times you have to show ID to some random employee when doing transactions at a bank.
> Many times you have to show ID when making big purchases at stores.
> Registering to vote and voting many times demand ID, very frequently a drivers license and frequently they won't take much else you're likely to have. And the people drooling over your licence aren't even permanent employees, just people off the street for a 12 hour shift.
> Your employer may want all kinds of ID and any ol' random employee may get to see it.
> Of course, there's always buying alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, prescriptions, getting student or senior discounts, buying AMTRAK tickets, picking up Greyhound tickets, taking the SAT or GRE, returning things to Victoria's Secret, and God forbid you should try paying at a retail store with a check.
> Etc., etc., etc. etc.
The thing is all but a public record.
Worrying about DLs is a little like worrying someone will see your grocery purchases. Sorry, it's out there.
Paranoia ?
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Dec 31, 2016 | 12:45 pm
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Is there some rational reason this would bother you?
> Every time you get on an airplane, you have to show some form of ID, usually a driver's license, to some random employee of TSA.
> Every time you have something notarized you have to show ID to some random notarizer. Of course, you do have to pay a fee to become a notary, not much else.
> Many times you have to show ID to some random employee when doing transactions at a bank.
> Many times you have to show ID when making big purchases at stores.
> Registering to vote and voting many times demand ID, very frequently a drivers license and frequently they won't take much else you're likely to have. And the people drooling over your licence aren't even permanent employees, just people off the street for a 12 hour shift.
> Your employer may want all kinds of ID and any ol' random employee may get to see it.
> Of course, there's always buying alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, prescriptions, getting student or senior discounts, buying AMTRAK tickets, picking up Greyhound tickets, taking the SAT or GRE, returning things to Victoria's Secret, and God forbid you should try paying at a retail store with a check.
> Etc., etc., etc. etc.
The thing is all but a public record.
Worrying about DLs is a little like worrying someone will see your grocery purchases. Sorry, it's out there.
Paranoia ?
> Every time you get on an airplane, you have to show some form of ID, usually a driver's license, to some random employee of TSA.
> Every time you have something notarized you have to show ID to some random notarizer. Of course, you do have to pay a fee to become a notary, not much else.
> Many times you have to show ID to some random employee when doing transactions at a bank.
> Many times you have to show ID when making big purchases at stores.
> Registering to vote and voting many times demand ID, very frequently a drivers license and frequently they won't take much else you're likely to have. And the people drooling over your licence aren't even permanent employees, just people off the street for a 12 hour shift.
> Your employer may want all kinds of ID and any ol' random employee may get to see it.
> Of course, there's always buying alcohol, cigarettes, marijuana, prescriptions, getting student or senior discounts, buying AMTRAK tickets, picking up Greyhound tickets, taking the SAT or GRE, returning things to Victoria's Secret, and God forbid you should try paying at a retail store with a check.
> Etc., etc., etc. etc.
The thing is all but a public record.
Worrying about DLs is a little like worrying someone will see your grocery purchases. Sorry, it's out there.
Paranoia ?
Dec 31, 2016 | 2:39 pm
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Is there a rational reason it wouldn't bother me? Paranoia? Apparently... in your head. I wouldn't mind if the employee just checked my ID, which is what happens in most of the cases you mentioned. I wish this is what they would do at CVS, but they don't just do that, they scan your ID, which means that it goes into their system. Yes, this happens in other cases as well, like when you book a flight, but if you feel this is the same as buying $500 gcs at a pharmacy store, then you're clearly the paranoid.
You may not be aware about this, but CVS, as many retailers, actually have a little device that has a lamp that can identify the DL produced is a real one or a fake one. Sometimes the device is put way on the side at the photo dept sometimes it is right below the counter - and this has been for YEARS, not just now. Precisely this is being treated as a pseudo ID.
Secondly, long gone were the days when just a DL could get you a liar loan. if that is one of the irrational reasons behind your paronia. These days everything serious involved SSN.
If you are so paranoid, you should make sure your SSN is at all time NOT in any 3rd party's hand, that includes your employer, your trade union / organization (yes, there were a fraudulent tax return case down here involved over 200 law-enforcement officers and firefighters SSNs being used.), and any medical places in particular your doctors' offices - this is a friendly advice from someone had SSN stolen in one of those places and fraudulent tax return being filed 3 years ago. Even that, nothing else has ever happened, no CC being obtained under the stolen SSN, nor faked loan. I did not even bother to sign up monitoring service despite it was offered for free based on my knowledge on this matter.
As for DL? it is no secret to be guarded, nor any such info could be used by crooks to cause any trouble.
Finally, Data Breach in big organizations is where the biggest problems occurred. Yet, having a few CCs being used fraudulent does NOT equal ID theft. Of course the media always mislead the uneducated public on credit card breach being ID Theft. It is NOT. As an example, a stolen DL info could not be used to file a fraudulent tax return - that distinction should make it clear to you that DL info is nothing to be worried about - it is purely a document to legally prove your claim as to who you are. But if you choose to live in your unfounded fear, so be it.
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What needs to be guarded is your SSN, not your DL, which is indeed public record and is EVERYWHERE because it is a pseudo ID in ol' USA - but can the DL be faked and then used for some ID-theft related activities? Many years ago, yes. Now? The possibility is very low. Just because it is a pseudo ID, the DL cannot be used for many LEGAL matters and that is where SSN is for.
You may not be aware about this, but CVS, as many retailers, actually have a little device that has a lamp that can identify the DL produced is a real one or a fake one. Sometimes the device is put way on the side at the photo dept sometimes it is right below the counter - and this has been for YEARS, not just now. Precisely this is being treated as a pseudo ID.
Secondly, long gone were the days when just a DL could get you a liar loan. if that is one of the irrational reasons behind your paronia. These days everything serious involved SSN.
If you are so paranoid, you should make sure your SSN is at all time NOT in any 3rd party's hand, that includes your employer, your trade union / organization (yes, there were a fraudulent tax return case down here involved over 200 law-enforcement officers and firefighters SSNs being used.), and any medical places in particular your doctors' offices - this is a friendly advice from someone had SSN stolen in one of those places and fraudulent tax return being filed 3 years ago. Even that, nothing else has ever happened, no CC being obtained under the stolen SSN, nor faked loan. I did not even bother to sign up monitoring service despite it was offered for free based on my knowledge on this matter.
As for DL? it is no secret to be guarded, nor any such info could be used by crooks to cause any trouble.
Finally, Data Breach in big organizations is where the biggest problems occurred. Yet, having a few CCs being used fraudulent does NOT equal ID theft. Of course the media always mislead the uneducated public on credit card breach being ID Theft. It is NOT. As an example, a stolen DL info could not be used to file a fraudulent tax return - that distinction should make it clear to you that DL info is nothing to be worried about - it is purely a document to legally prove your claim as to who you are. But if you choose to live in your unfounded fear, so be it.
You may not be aware about this, but CVS, as many retailers, actually have a little device that has a lamp that can identify the DL produced is a real one or a fake one. Sometimes the device is put way on the side at the photo dept sometimes it is right below the counter - and this has been for YEARS, not just now. Precisely this is being treated as a pseudo ID.
Secondly, long gone were the days when just a DL could get you a liar loan. if that is one of the irrational reasons behind your paronia. These days everything serious involved SSN.
If you are so paranoid, you should make sure your SSN is at all time NOT in any 3rd party's hand, that includes your employer, your trade union / organization (yes, there were a fraudulent tax return case down here involved over 200 law-enforcement officers and firefighters SSNs being used.), and any medical places in particular your doctors' offices - this is a friendly advice from someone had SSN stolen in one of those places and fraudulent tax return being filed 3 years ago. Even that, nothing else has ever happened, no CC being obtained under the stolen SSN, nor faked loan. I did not even bother to sign up monitoring service despite it was offered for free based on my knowledge on this matter.
As for DL? it is no secret to be guarded, nor any such info could be used by crooks to cause any trouble.
Finally, Data Breach in big organizations is where the biggest problems occurred. Yet, having a few CCs being used fraudulent does NOT equal ID theft. Of course the media always mislead the uneducated public on credit card breach being ID Theft. It is NOT. As an example, a stolen DL info could not be used to file a fraudulent tax return - that distinction should make it clear to you that DL info is nothing to be worried about - it is purely a document to legally prove your claim as to who you are. But if you choose to live in your unfounded fear, so be it.
Lamp devices, liar loans, fraudulent tax returns, where did you get all this? Of course if you had paid any attention to what I wrote to you earlier instead of just being all full of yourself, you'd know that I'm not really concerned about ID theft, 'cause I explicitly told you so.Pertaining to you earlier post
Use some common sense.
Requesting DL info has been in place at CVS for several years.
There are so many people have been doing the same thing for so many years, do you really think others are stupid not to worry about their IDs being stolen?
Not sure why when it comes to ms, suddenly many seem to totally lose the ability to think.
Requesting DL info has been in place at CVS for several years.
There are so many people have been doing the same thing for so many years, do you really think others are stupid not to worry about their IDs being stolen?
Not sure why when it comes to ms, suddenly many seem to totally lose the ability to think.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...ey-orders.html
and throughout the thread, you see that individuals' records (perhaps even including SSNs) are kept in a binder behind the counter. Of course you already knew that. Sure no one can access that, right?
Don't get me wrong though. I do enjoy a good pile of BS as much as the next guy, so keep it coming.
As for my DL being everywhere, try to find it.
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Well CVS may have a computerized system but it seems that in WM they're still doing it the old way. Just by reading the first post here
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manuf...ey-orders.html
and throughout the thread, you see that individuals' records (perhaps even including SSNs) are kept in a binder behind the counter. Of course you already knew that. Sure no one can access that, right?
Don't get me wrong though. I do enjoy a good pile of BS as much as the next guy, so keep it coming.
As for my DL being everywhere, try to find it.
It depends on which WMT. The paper form you read about are long gone in many WMTs. They were there years back and some of the folks I knew did not mind to give such.
One of the "legend" poster no longer visited FT once showed me a picture with the receipt of buying the instrument, by the side of his car, just to show me how long it was... So yes, he filled out the paper form, had a discussion with the management of his stores which "promised" the form would be locked up in the office. I have not heard anything from him about any ID theft resulting from his SSN being left on WMT form. That has to be 4 or even 5 years ago when BofA still offered US Airway and Alaska Airlines debit cards. If you have so much time to dig up ancient DPs, you can google about these 2 miles earning debit cards as to WHEN they died. Think about this person earned hundreds of thousands miles thru these debit cards (maxed out the annual caps on multiple cards) and you can figure out the volumes that have gone thru. Nothing has ever happened, either to his ID or to the SARs. Granted, this guy kept meticulous records on everything. I believe 99.99% of people here would never come close to such extent when it comes to record-keeping jub done by this guy.
AFAIK, all WMTs here the paper form is long gone, Now the SSN is directly entered by the customer on the keypad - and it is not just pertained to buying MO above $3K but also needed for sending and receiving money. I dont know which types of the transactions required SSN but on many many many occasions I see the customer before me is told to enter his / her SSN using the keypad, and I am 100% sure they are not buying MOs!
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How many people have been getting the following message when using fivebacks at CVS:
Alternate Form of Payment Required
I and several other area MSers were have been unable to use fivebacks at CVS the past 1-2 days. I tried every combination of credit/debt, swipe up/down, buying 1 card or 4 cards, etc. Nothing worked. Trying to figure out if this is the beginning of the end for this method, temporary system error, bad batches of cards, being done on CVS's end, Blackhawk's end. Any DPs appreciated.
Alternate Form of Payment Required
I and several other area MSers were have been unable to use fivebacks at CVS the past 1-2 days. I tried every combination of credit/debt, swipe up/down, buying 1 card or 4 cards, etc. Nothing worked. Trying to figure out if this is the beginning of the end for this method, temporary system error, bad batches of cards, being done on CVS's end, Blackhawk's end. Any DPs appreciated.