& those are the figures Id like to see. Id like to know the % of SE's that earn Status flying on AC.

And a further differentiation between those earning SE status by flying mainly on Tango Plus, and those earning E/SE status by flying mainly on Latitude and Executive/Executive First.

Executive/Executive First is generally 3~6 times more expensive than Tango Plus in most cases and only earn a mere 25~50% COS. Until recently, C on many routes do not even earn COS.

Also, if they paid with Visa or Mastercard or Amex-- and so on and so on and so on--no wonder AC does not do the lifetime status-- this mileage tracking issue will never satisfy everybody. It should be plain and simple-- how many status miles on AC metal. Of course for people who think they deserve better because they paid more AC can always have a PPS Club like program--(and as a TIC after thought)maybe eliminate the ones who moved to UA MP ion the last 5 years

This always seems to come up but I don't understand why.

You have the choice to fly and get <100%, 100%, 125% or 150% status miles.

For tango to tango+ you choose to pay more for status.
For tango to exec you choose to pay more for exec class.
For exec low to exec high you choose to pay more for status.

(obviously there are other things that change too but as we're talking status miles here I'll ignore them)

You can try and argue that AC should give people more status for flying exec rather than tango, but they don't have to give anything at all.
AC could argue that any fare difference between economy and exec is purely seating/service related and not status related. After all most people don't fly exec for the extra status points, they fly because they want to fly in the front!

it looks like status is out... lets wait to hear from marketing at AC.^

Right....I earn SE status by flying on TPlus fares YSB/YYZ r/t for $1339.33 CAD all in a 1000Q miles. YYZ/YUL in latitude fares using same dates/times costs $1183.24 CAD for 1000Q miles .
Furthurmore ,using same dates and times in Discounted business on YYZ/YUL costs $1013.93 CAD and yields 1000Q miles plus cos bonus.

Personally,does not bode me well

We've had this program in the works for some time and as a result of your feedback and suggestions to me, my team and the entire company we made the decision to fast track the launch ahead of 2011 renom. There are 3 levels to the program. 1, 2 and 3 million miles flown on AC/Jazz since the start of the status program.
1MM = Lifetime Elite status for member + exclusive benefits/gift unique to this status level
2MM = Lifetime Elite status for member + Lifetime Elite status for a nominated partner + exclusive benefits/gifts unique to this status level
3MM = Lifetime Super Elite status for member + Lifetime Elite status for a nominated partner + exclusive benefits/gifts unique to this status level

Those who have qualified will be receiving their individual personalized packages in the coming weeks. In the coming months we have additional functionality rolling out to facilitate the ability to track your progress toward achieving status in these new programs.

Thanks again for your feedback and continued loyalty.

Thanks Ben for the confirmation. As you can see from the other thread on the Million Mile subject, many people are waiting to hear 'the rules'...

This recognition and this program launch by Air Canada is greatly appreciated for so many reasons. Lifetime status assures us we can still access the amenities that we value now, when our miles flown may be lower in our retirement years. But the recognition now by Air Canada of how much time we spend on your planes is also appreciated....

Achieving the next level in this program will certainly give incentive to Aeroplan members to stay on Air Canada metal.

Plumber

What about 2MM = Lifetime Elite status for member + Lifetime Elite status for a nominated partner + exclusive benefits/gifts unique to this status level

or Lifetime SE without partner benefits?

Glad to here we will find out what the "rules" are for mileage, a programs not much good if we dont know what miles count.^

Thanks Ben--much appreciated. Looking forward to receiving the "package"^

Ben, thanks for posting. Someone else pointed out something similar and it's a bit dangerous given we don't know what the exclusive benefits/gifts are, but the lifetime Elite status at 2 million is kind of redundant since a member would have received that already at 1 million.

It's still a lot of flying to get to 2 million from 1 million, was hoping to see a nice incremental jump in achieving this level.

I received my box last week, nice job AC on this.

You get to nominate someone for Lifetime Elite, I think that's a pretty good addition. As I posted on the other thread, there will be lots of people hitting 2MM in another 10 years, and most of these folks will have another 10 to 20 years of flying ahead of them because they've been able to earn such credits on all their flying as they'd have had AE going for their entire work-related flying lifetimes. AC needs to protect its revenue position and keep them flying with AC rather than defecting to another FF program. They will be earning SE or E, while having the fallback to Lifetime Elite, so I see AC's rationale for keeping the 3MM target for lifetime in its top tier.

Dear SH--3MM means 100,000 miles per year x 30 years flying on AC metal ONLY--that may be theoretically possible but practically will be extremely rare--so lifetime SE will be a rare bird--much like Mr. Bingham!!

Agreed... but I bet there are still a significant number of people who will crack the 3 million mark. That threshold is clearly intended for the serious international traveller, and perhaps the domestic pass-holder assuming AC recognizes those miles for lifetime status. 12 months of latitude NA pass nets 180,000 Status Miles. Combined with a couple of overseas trips, that works out to 15 years to reach lifetime SE status.

I think the levels are appropriate, and certainly consistant with other programs such as UA. American is not a good comparison, since they top out at mid-tier status for 2 milllion miles (status and otherwise). I doubt I will ever make more than 1 million status miles with AC, but it is always nice to dream and have something to look forward to.

SG