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#2881
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There are parcel mailboxes for that problem, so the mailman can leave the parcel even when you are not home. Leaving a package 2km away from its destination is nothing but retarded and there are no rational arguments justifying the practice.
This is a great example: http://www.pakmanparcelbox.com.au
This is a great example: http://www.pakmanparcelbox.com.au
All couriers, including Australia Post, can deliver items to a Pakman Parcel Box. It is a convenient way to securely accept delivery of parcels or mail when you’re not at home. No more waiting for couriers or missed deliveries.
#2882
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Nope, equally worse in Stockholm, even at the major hospital(s). The problem with all professionals in Sweden, including doctors, is that their fika and 30 days of holiday planning is higher on the priority list than patient care and treatment. Why become a doctor if you don't care about people and doing a 100% proper job.
If only there was more competition in the form of real private clinics. This would also be a great way to improve the education system. A lot of problems in Sweden today are simply because of a lack of competition and the very little competition there was historically actually has been shot down and changed because a kid got teased in school...
In many countries it is custom to give birth at home unless there are complications. So the unnecessary trip to the hospital where you're getting kicked out as soon as the kid is out doesn't contribute to the experience.
Or people that don't work from an office. The solution is UPS and paying $50+ per shipment, they do come all the way to your house regardless of where it is but those cost don't work on many smaller shipments.
If only there was more competition in the form of real private clinics. This would also be a great way to improve the education system. A lot of problems in Sweden today are simply because of a lack of competition and the very little competition there was historically actually has been shot down and changed because a kid got teased in school...
In many countries it is custom to give birth at home unless there are complications. So the unnecessary trip to the hospital where you're getting kicked out as soon as the kid is out doesn't contribute to the experience.
Or people that don't work from an office. The solution is UPS and paying $50+ per shipment, they do come all the way to your house regardless of where it is but those cost don't work on many smaller shipments.
Plus their university degree only take 3 years to get, if you do 1 year with English usage courses, and the last year is for writing a thesis, how much can they learn?
The American mum gave birth here while she was living here (she moved back a couple of year later).
That is: If you even get to see a doctor in the first place and are not send away by a nurse on a power trip which after walking down her standard questionnaire tells you to go back home and wait another 5 days that things get better...
Tried to get a cardio screening for a long time (I even have the special private insurance) since I have now and then some tingling in my left arm and leg after a bit of piercing pain in my left chest region... sounds to me like "warning for heart attack (or something in the area)".
I was sent home every single time without even seeing a doc after the girl noted some questions, checking of my blood pressure and made the conclusion I'm fine. And I tried more than one clinic. Eventually I got to see a doc which told me to come back when I "experience the problems again".
I'm really really close to end my "living in Sweden" Experiment based on this. I do not want to die because some lazy "health care professionals" think I'm fine without even checking me up.
For the parcels:
Again, I actually love that. I'm never at home when they come (even the UPS guys) so I'm happy that I get a SMS my package has been delivered to the next landhandel (about 2kms away) and I can pick it up on my way back home.
Tried to get a cardio screening for a long time (I even have the special private insurance) since I have now and then some tingling in my left arm and leg after a bit of piercing pain in my left chest region... sounds to me like "warning for heart attack (or something in the area)".
I was sent home every single time without even seeing a doc after the girl noted some questions, checking of my blood pressure and made the conclusion I'm fine. And I tried more than one clinic. Eventually I got to see a doc which told me to come back when I "experience the problems again".
I'm really really close to end my "living in Sweden" Experiment based on this. I do not want to die because some lazy "health care professionals" think I'm fine without even checking me up.
For the parcels:
Again, I actually love that. I'm never at home when they come (even the UPS guys) so I'm happy that I get a SMS my package has been delivered to the next landhandel (about 2kms away) and I can pick it up on my way back home.
Oh doctor's speciality - giving out Penicillin like candies, any problem - Penicillin (I thought this was a UK speciality). They bombard my kids with bottles of Penicillin when they can't find the cause of the problem.
I have decided that I'm going to seek medical advice/treatment abroad.
During my pregnancies, the ultra sound check was horrible. They didn't tell me a thing and if I wanted a print out - it's 10kr.
So after that I went for their regular check and then paid to get the scanning done in Copenhagen. I don't want to bring a defected kid into this world.
Another thing - if you do need some sort of remedies, ask the doctor if you can buy it without prescription because the price is lower without prescription than with prescription - don't ask me why.
Sweden is not lack of competition, it's because people don't change - if they are still as default go to their local school, dentist, nothing will be changed. People are happy with what they have - and that's the real problem. Would they bother finding out if there is a better doctor/dentist/school out somewhere? If you are a dentist and willing to offer better treatment and lower price, how do you convince people to come to you rather than their regular?
My Chinese friend who works at ESS told me that she has to go in at 7am because people there starts fika at 9 = can't concentrate to work, and again at 2pm. I was shocked and that explain their lower salary compared to DK.
@fassy - I know the parcel thing is convenient, and I think that they should do both delivery and pick up. They are driving out anyway, so whether they have 3 boxes more with them there is no difference.
UPS dumped my parcel in the mailbox 2 days ago - I was shocked. Someone was home the whole day.
The Hemglass car is hopeless too - very loud noise every fortnight.
#2883
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#2885
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Typical reaction of a Swede. If i got a penny for each time I got this preprogrammed reply...
Allergic to change and improvement? What makes you guys so incapable of accepting other views and seeing the flaws in your system?
Sweden has plenty of unique and amazing things to offer, the positive things usually aren't discussed in such topics.
Allergic to change and improvement? What makes you guys so incapable of accepting other views and seeing the flaws in your system?
Sweden has plenty of unique and amazing things to offer, the positive things usually aren't discussed in such topics.
#2886
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Don't you realize there's only one way to do things? The Swedish way.
Most of the outrage directed at Jimmie and his party is because they, rightfully, point out that foreigners do things differently.
Most of the outrage directed at Jimmie and his party is because they, rightfully, point out that foreigners do things differently.
#2887
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Unfortunately there is no law governing these kind of noise, and therefore the "Swedish" way is to "live with it".
#2889
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BA in knowing nothing - what's the point for a degree of a subject if you can do 4 English usage course (like essay writing technique)? Trust me the level is low - I know. I thought my UK degree is rubbish but this is beyond rubbish.
These courses should be passed before starting a degree.
These courses should be passed before starting a degree.
#2890
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There are people who buy their company's office supplies on credit cards and rack up even more points. Is that unethical when they are the company owner or otherwise authorized by company management to do so?
Nope, equally worse in Stockholm, even at the major hospital(s). The problem with all professionals in Sweden, including doctors, is that their fika and 30 days of holiday planning is higher on the priority list than patient care and treatment. Why become a doctor if you don't care about people and doing a 100% proper job.
Last edited by GUWonder; Sep 10, 2015 at 4:36 am
#2891
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Typical reaction of a Swede. If i got a penny for each time I got this preprogrammed reply...
Allergic to change and improvement? What makes you guys so incapable of accepting other views and seeing the flaws in your system?
Sweden has plenty of unique and amazing things to offer, the positive things usually aren't discussed in such topics.
Allergic to change and improvement? What makes you guys so incapable of accepting other views and seeing the flaws in your system?
Sweden has plenty of unique and amazing things to offer, the positive things usually aren't discussed in such topics.
Come on, but how many tattoos and/or body piercings does someone have to have on their body in order to either fit or not fit into "the Swedish way"? Does hooking up with a Dane or Norwegian violate or enshrine "the Swedish way"?
The opposition to Angry Jimmie and his cohorts is mostly there because Jimmie & Co are seen as racist parochialists that don't fit into "the Swedish way" given the idea that many Swedes have about what Sweden has been, is and/or should be. Oh the irony.
Last edited by GUWonder; Sep 10, 2015 at 4:47 am
#2892
Join Date: Sep 2012
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Systems are different, and different systems have their pros and cons. That goes for the medical system and it goes for the mail/parcel delivery system, whether in the US or in Sweden/Scandinavia. And there are reasons that explain why the systems being what they are actually makes sense in some way or another -- even as the results don't work equally well for all. But where do systems ever work equally well for all, as there usually is an outlier somewhere.
The biggest problem with Sweden is that they still think (and also the impression the world has about Sweden) they are at the top with a great social security system, efficient and working medical care, a top notch education and school system while in fact the system gradually degrades and has reached a level which is in fact behind a lot of CEE countries.
Also, I do no see why I pay a ton of money for someone (doctor, car mechanic, handyman, ...) to do a job - and then get a crappy result. But that goes through all jobs and companies as far as I can see it.
Funny thing is that all of my colleagues are unhappy with those things but nobody is willing to speak up. Goes for public things like the above but also in the projects. They complain during the fika about things not done the proper way or being ignored with their ideas but if they are asked to speak up to the senior management they just shrug and say "won't change anything, so I don't even try".
I tried to address the issues with the senior management, found out it really won't change anything and decided to take the leave.
I always though "Do what you are told, don't ask why" is a German trait but in fact it is far more embedded in Swedish culture than it ever could be in Germany. They just call it different... "Be nice and do not complain, all is shiny and great!"
#2893
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The biggest problem with Sweden is that they still think (and also the impression the world has about Sweden) they are at the top with a great social security system, efficient and working medical care, a top notch education and school system while in fact the system gradually degrades and has reached a level which is in fact behind a lot of CEE countries.
It is always interesting to meet people from different countries who think everything is better in Sweden than everywhere else. Sure its a beautiful country and having the highest concentration of good-looking women in the world is obviously a great thing to be famous for but there are so many things which are just propaganda and blatantly not true.
Funny thing is that all of my colleagues are unhappy with those things but nobody is willing to speak up. Goes for public things like the above but also in the projects. They complain during the fika about things not done the proper way or being ignored with their ideas but if they are asked to speak up to the senior management they just shrug and say "won't change anything, so I don't even try".
Also keep another Swedish problem in mind, most Swedes will have a different opinion in a group than they will have 1:1. Compliance is apparently considered more important than defending your interests. And in Sweden, just like every other country, nobody is going to do that for you. It is really the only or one of few countries where there is a significant portion of citizens who believe the government acts in their interests and knows what is good for them. Even being slapped in the face with the facts of that not being the case won't convince them otherwise.
#2894
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Oh dear... certain swedish relatives of mine insist that in Sweden everything is awesome:
But then for some reason, when they visit me in Germany, they say the alcohol is so much cheaper, the general cost of living lower etc etc.
Sweden is what it is. The sad part is that Swedes are taken for a major ride but seem to be OK with it. This week I was in Norway and very surprised how quickly their economy is adjusting from the oil shock. The NOK has devalued etc etc.
But then for some reason, when they visit me in Germany, they say the alcohol is so much cheaper, the general cost of living lower etc etc.
Sweden is what it is. The sad part is that Swedes are taken for a major ride but seem to be OK with it. This week I was in Norway and very surprised how quickly their economy is adjusting from the oil shock. The NOK has devalued etc etc.
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Oh dear... certain swedish relatives of mine insist that in Sweden everything is awesome:
But then for some reason, when they visit me in Germany, they say the alcohol is so much cheaper, the general cost of living lower etc etc.
Sweden is what it is. The sad part is that Swedes are taken for a major ride but seem to be OK with it. This week I was in Norway and very surprised how quickly their economy is adjusting from the oil shock. The NOK has devalued etc etc.
But then for some reason, when they visit me in Germany, they say the alcohol is so much cheaper, the general cost of living lower etc etc.
Sweden is what it is. The sad part is that Swedes are taken for a major ride but seem to be OK with it. This week I was in Norway and very surprised how quickly their economy is adjusting from the oil shock. The NOK has devalued etc etc.