SAS Wet Leases [merged discussions & experience reports]
Jul 22, 2013, 8:42 am
#61
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.She is asking why LH would not open up award space for SK. Her question stems from the fact that LH was able to open up award space on SK this past X-mas on our return from MAA. I assume that this was due to the VDB, although the rules should have forced LH to stick to LH coded flights.
Granted the situation is different, but perhaps the question is when would LH consider opening up award space for SK?
Jul 22, 2013, 9:07 am
#62
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OK, maybe award space is open on the flights you would take, I have no knowledge of where exactly you are flying, maybe LH has kept space open even though NRW, the most populous state in Germany, just commenced summer vacations today: http://www.schulferien.org/Schulferi...2013_Juni.html 
In (my) reality LH or SK never open up space for each other. <- thats a period.
In (my) reality LH or SK never open up space for each other. <- thats a period.
Jul 22, 2013, 11:03 am
#63
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It seems SK925/6 are now switched to Omni too:
livious, you could certainly rebook...!
Code:
11JUL13
SAS will operate SK925 and SK 926 with leased aircraft during 13OCT13-26OCT13
Omni Air International will operate SK925 CPH-WAS and SK926 WAS-CPH with a Boeing 767. Flight will operate with Omni Air International crew together with two SAS cabin attendants.
The cabin configuration differs from SAS and holds two classes only, business and economy.
Differences in service onboard OMNI Flights:
Purchase of duty free items onboard will not be possible.
No buffet in Galley
Chair in business class can lean 140 degrees (SAS flatbeds 170 degrees)
Movie on big screens. No IFE system
No economy extra cabin
Passenger originally booked in SAS Plus will be upgraded to Business class if available. Passenger facing downgrading will be compensated at airport.
Rebooking
Passengers holding reservations on SK wet leased operated flights, issued on SK/117 documents, may involuntary rebook to other SK operated flights and dates within ticket validity. Rebooking shall be made in the same booking class or in lowest available booking class in the same service class as originally booked.
Tickets must be marked with: FE INVOL DUE WETLEASE
Refund
Refund not permitted.
Jul 22, 2013, 2:03 pm
#64
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Well, LH seems to have inventory open even now, although I suppose its to entice airport upgrades:
Code:
>ad23julcphnyc/a*a
AD23JULCPHNYC/A*A
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** NYC NEW YORK.USNY 1 TU 23JUL 0000
1 SK 909 C8 DL RL Y8 SL E4 M4 /CPH 3 EWR B 1225 1450 E0/343 8:25
H4 Q4 GL NL
2 LH 833 J9 C9 D9 ZL Y9 B9 M9 /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 IR
U9 HL GL QL VL WL SL
UA:LH7637 JL CL DL ZL YL BL /FRA 1 EWR B 0845 1150 E0/752 11:45
3LH:UA9265 J1 C1 D1 Z0 P0 Y0 B0 /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 TR
M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
UA 118 J1 C1 D1 Z0 P0 Y0 B0 /FRA 1 EWR B 0845 1150 E0/752 11:45
M0 E1 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0
4LH:UA9265 J4 C4 D4 Z0 P0 Y4 B4 /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 TR
M4 U4 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH:UA8841 F0 A0 J4 C4 D4 Z0 P0 /FRA 1 JFK 1 1020 1245 E0/744 12:40
Y0 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
5 LH 833 J5 C5 D5 ZL Y1 BL ML /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 IR
UL HL GL QL VL WL SL
LH 400 F1 A1 J5 C5 D5 ZL Y1 /FRA 1 JFK 1 1020 1245 E0/744 12:40
BL ML UL HL QL VL WL SL
>ad23julcphnyc/a*a/ci,x
AD23JULCPHNYC/A*A/CI,X
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** NYC NEW YORK.USNY 1 TU 23JUL 0000
1 LH 833 I9 X9 /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 IR
LH 400 I3 XL /FRA 1 JFK 1 1020 1245 E0/744 12:40
2 LH 833 I9 X9 /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 IR
LH 074 I9 X9 /FRA 1 DUS 0845 0935 E0/733
LH 408 IL XL /DUS EWR B 1205 1435 E0/343 IR 14:30
3 LH 833 I9 X9 /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 IR
CL*LH 076 I7 X9 /FRA 1 DUS 1015 1105 E0/CR7
LH 408 IL XL /DUS EWR B 1205 1435 E0/343 IR 14:30
4 SN2268 IL XL /CPH 2 BRU 0635 0810 E0/319
SN 501 IL /BRU JFK 1 1025 1240 E0/333 12:05
>ad23julcphnyc/a*a/ci,x
AD23JULCPHNYC/A*A/CI,X
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** NYC NEW YORK.USNY 1 TU 23JUL 0000
1 LH 833 I9 X9 /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 IR
LH 400 I3 XL /FRA 1 JFK 1 1020 1245 E0/744 12:40
2 LH 833 I9 X9 /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 IR
LH 074 I9 X9 /FRA 1 DUS 0845 0935 E0/733
LH 408 IL XL /DUS EWR B 1205 1435 E0/343 IR 14:30
3 LH 833 I9 X9 /CPH 3 FRA 1 0605 0740 E0/320 IR
CL*LH 076 I7 X9 /FRA 1 DUS 1015 1105 E0/CR7
LH 408 IL XL /DUS EWR B 1205 1435 E0/343 IR 14:30
4 SN2268 IL XL /CPH 2 BRU 0635 0810 E0/319
SN 501 IL /BRU JFK 1 1025 1240 E0/333 12:05
>ad23julcphnyc1200/a*a/ci,x
AD23JULCPHNYC1200/A*A/CI,X
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** NYC NEW YORK.USNY 1 TU 23JUL 1200
1CL*LH2443 I3 X9 /CPH 3 MUC 2 1255 1435 E0/E95
LH 412 IL XL /MUC 2 EWR B 1535 1835 E0/346 11:40
>
Jul 23, 2013, 1:44 am
#65
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Thanks for the detailed description. I just realized that we have been switched to the 767 and the info really helps. Trying to switch flights but realize that the odds are slim-to-none. At least I can set the expectation for the kids at a low level (no IFE is not going to go over well).
Aug 21, 2013, 1:52 am
#68
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Posts: 600
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/sk902
This page will give you an insight on which equipment is operating this route. Unfortunately the use of the A343 on this route seems very random.
Aug 22, 2013, 12:58 am
#69
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http://www.check-in.dk/newselement.c...rticleID=80396
So three Omni birds at CPH these days : 1 for SK and 2 for Novo
Oct 8, 2013, 1:10 am
#70
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Much more delayed
The A340, now with registration LN-RKP, should have arrived in Copenhagen on October 14., but will not be ready to fly for SAS until late February according to check-in.dk. The plane is still in Santiago de Chile. Problem: Airbus and LAN Chile cannot agree on the conditions of the aircraft. What a mess.
Oct 8, 2013, 9:54 am
#71
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The A340, now with registration LN-RKP, should have arrived in Copenhagen on October 14., but will not be ready to fly for SAS until late February according to check-in.dk. The plane is still in Santiago de Chile. Problem: Airbus and LAN Chile cannot agree on the conditions of the aircraft. What a mess.
I'm likely to skip doing an OptionTown bid if that's the case.
Oct 8, 2013, 1:22 pm
#72
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Location: CPH
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I have no personal knowledge, but same travel-site writes:
"SAS will in winter timetable not use Omni Air regularly, but try to get things to stick together with its own fleet of long-haul aircraft."
Which should mean, your risk of the 767 is slim. But not zero. IAD used to be the prime Omni-route.
Oct 9, 2013, 1:22 pm
#73
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Sweden
Programs: SK Eurobonus
Posts: 162
They should be fine without any extra capacity during the winter timetable but if the "new" A340 haven't appeared in late march there will be trouble with the summer schedule...
Oct 10, 2013, 2:36 am
#74
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I don't think so... the lighter winter timetable is used to send aircraft into maintenance for needed routine checks. If they made the W13-14 plan using the 'new' 343 then they are in trouble...
Oct 10, 2013, 2:38 am
#75
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BTW, the OMNI aircraft is firmly scheduled for IAD this month:
Code:
27SEP13
SAS will operate SK925 and SK 926 with leased aircraft during 13OCT13-26OCT13 and 01NOV13
Omni Air International will operate SK925 CPH-WAS and SK926 WAS-CPH with a Boeing 767. Flight will operate with Omni Air International crew.
The cabin configuration differs from SAS and holds two classes only, business and economy.
Differences in service onboard OMNI Flights:
Purchase of duty free items onboard will not be possible.
No buffet in Galley
Chair in business class can lean 140 degrees (SAS flatbeds 170 degrees)
Movie on big screens. No IFE system
No economy extra cabin
Passenger originally booked in SAS Plus will be upgraded to Business class if available. Passenger facing downgrading will be compensated at airport.
Rebooking
Passengers holding reservations on SK wet leased operated flights, issued on SK/117 documents, may involuntary rebook to other SK operated flights and dates within ticket validity. Rebooking shall be made in the same booking class or in lowest available booking class in the same service class as originally booked.
Tickets must be marked with: FE INVOL DUE WETLEASE
Refund
Refund not permitted.