LAX moves from ARN to CPH
#76
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
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There is a shortage of gates at all the terminals at ARN.
But as far as I know it's not possible anymore and it doesn't really help either since over a day you normally have the same amount of birds arriving from none schengen as departure with a none schengen country as destination. Having a lower number of gates which can handle none schengen departures than gates which can handle none schengen arrivals don't make sense.
But as far as I know it's not possible anymore and it doesn't really help either since over a day you normally have the same amount of birds arriving from none schengen as departure with a none schengen country as destination. Having a lower number of gates which can handle none schengen departures than gates which can handle none schengen arrivals don't make sense.
The B-pier gates (13-16) which can handle non-Schengen arrivals with Schengen departures make sense for two airlines only, and that's SAS and Norwegian. If you want to avoid buses, those kind of turnarounds can only take place at the F-gates or at gates 13-16. It's typically used when you have a plane that's arriving from e.g. London, which will continue to Oslo.
#77
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I agree it has plenty of spare gates compared to the total number of gates at this terminal, but it only has 4 gates in total as far as I remember, and neither can handle anything beyond a CRJ-900 and some of them are limited to ATR-72 size birds. Some of the slots at this terminal has been taken over by other airlines, but there are still a good number of slots available, but unfortunately not slots which can be utilized by the birds which occupies the pier F gates.
#78
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
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The T3 map on ARN's web page shows gates 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58 and 59A-B. I'm not sure what 59A-B means, it's a long time since I was there. Maybe one of them is a walking gate and the other one a bus gate. So, there are seven or eight gates there.
Tomorrow, I can count 16 departures for the entire day:
0835 Karlstad
0840 Jonkoping
0855 Sveg
0910 Vilhelmina
0915 Torsby
0915 Hemavan
0915 Gallivare
1425 Jonkoping
1440 Karlstad
1810 Jonkoping
1815 Karlstad
1815 Torsby
1845 Sveg
1900 Kramfors
1915 Vilhelmina
1915 Gallivare
So, there's seven departures between 0835-0915, two between 1425-1440, and seven between 1810-1915. During the rest of the day, that terminal is empty. On Saturdays and Sundays, there are almost no flights at all. The only times that T3 doesn't have any spare capacity is basically on weekdays between 0800-0900 and 1800-1900. Otherwise, you can easily remote park small planes here and bus them from T5.
I'm not sure what the maximum size is, but I've seen planes like ATR, F50, ATP, and small jets park there.
But T3 or not: If they really need to find spare capacity for remote stands, they can do that, as they did on 24 May 2017, when there suddenly was a huge influx of both narrowbodies and widebodies from AMS and MAN in need of bus gates:
Tomorrow, I can count 16 departures for the entire day:
0835 Karlstad
0840 Jonkoping
0855 Sveg
0910 Vilhelmina
0915 Torsby
0915 Hemavan
0915 Gallivare
1425 Jonkoping
1440 Karlstad
1810 Jonkoping
1815 Karlstad
1815 Torsby
1845 Sveg
1900 Kramfors
1915 Vilhelmina
1915 Gallivare
So, there's seven departures between 0835-0915, two between 1425-1440, and seven between 1810-1915. During the rest of the day, that terminal is empty. On Saturdays and Sundays, there are almost no flights at all. The only times that T3 doesn't have any spare capacity is basically on weekdays between 0800-0900 and 1800-1900. Otherwise, you can easily remote park small planes here and bus them from T5.
I'm not sure what the maximum size is, but I've seen planes like ATR, F50, ATP, and small jets park there.
But T3 or not: If they really need to find spare capacity for remote stands, they can do that, as they did on 24 May 2017, when there suddenly was a huge influx of both narrowbodies and widebodies from AMS and MAN in need of bus gates:
#79
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#85
Join Date: May 2008
Location: ARN
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Yes, this picture was of the very first BA 787 flight with passengers, LHR-ARN, on arrival into ARN. But I've seen both the 787 and A330 several times with bus gates from T2. I read a document (can't find it right now), which lists the maximum wing span allowed on T2 gates, and it was smaller than the 787 wing span, so I find your comment about boarding from het bridge really strange. Maybe they blocked off the two gates next to it to be able to do it.
#87
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2
the change to CPH is due to ARN has some special airport tax , so it's more expensive for SAS to fly there. Instead of flying A330 to ARN from LAX with some passengers going to CPH and OSL, it's cheaper to flying A320 or 737 from CPH to ARN. Smaller aircrafts pay less airport tax. The airport tax is related to combating global warming/climate change. There's better way than airport tax. I have been flying LAX-ARN once a year for last 3 years. Disappointed about this change.