New [Plusgrade] upgrade system and SK ditches OT [2016-2022]
Jul 8, 2019, 11:40 pm
#886
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: AY+, SK EB
Posts: 2,960
Somehow I have the feeling that a good amount of enhancements are part of the well-thought-out introduction of the Light fare to NA.
Briefly after the introduction SK adjusted the bag benefit. It seems like it wasn't a big issue with the European Light fare but with the Light fare to NA it got one.
Then they noticed that with the rock-bottom NA Light fare they can't cover the costs for their FFP and they cut the earnings for all Light tickets to a tiny minimum.
And now they noticed that you can circumvent the earning cut by placing a successful bid via PlusGrade and that this should be fixed. At least if you don't give SK more money.
This really fits into many other well-thought-out plans of SK.
Just my 2 cents.
Briefly after the introduction SK adjusted the bag benefit. It seems like it wasn't a big issue with the European Light fare but with the Light fare to NA it got one.
Then they noticed that with the rock-bottom NA Light fare they can't cover the costs for their FFP and they cut the earnings for all Light tickets to a tiny minimum.
And now they noticed that you can circumvent the earning cut by placing a successful bid via PlusGrade and that this should be fixed. At least if you don't give SK more money.
This really fits into many other well-thought-out plans of SK.
Just my 2 cents.
Jul 9, 2019, 11:30 am
#887
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: CPH
Programs: SK, A3, QR
Posts: 220
I never saw a campaign offer for upgrades this summer, but noticed it when attempting the upgrade. The same is true for our return flights on Saturday from FCO - minimum bid is 350 SEK, 30% off normal prices.
Jul 15, 2019, 6:01 pm
#888
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: CPH
Programs: SK, A3, QR
Posts: 220
No additional miles on Plusgrade upgrade
Just to report that the recent changes on Plusgrade points/miles not changing with the upgrade seems to have come into effect, at least when crediting to ffp other than EB.
My recent outbound flight upgraded with minimum cash offer did not credit automatically to A3 (as has previously always been the case).
When the return flight credited automatically a few days after I knew something was up. Went to retro-register and the system picked up the original booking class (not A). It’s ‘just’ 1200 miles, but still a bummer.
My recent outbound flight upgraded with minimum cash offer did not credit automatically to A3 (as has previously always been the case).
When the return flight credited automatically a few days after I knew something was up. Went to retro-register and the system picked up the original booking class (not A). It’s ‘just’ 1200 miles, but still a bummer.
Jul 16, 2019, 3:29 am
#889
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: VIE/BTS
Posts: 975
Just to report that the recent changes on Plusgrade points/miles not changing with the upgrade seems to have come into effect, at least when crediting to ffp other than EB.
My recent outbound flight upgraded with minimum cash offer did not credit automatically to A3 (as has previously always been the case).
When the return flight credited automatically a few days after I knew something was up. Went to retro-register and the system picked up the original booking class (not A). It’s ‘just’ 1200 miles, but still a bummer.
My recent outbound flight upgraded with minimum cash offer did not credit automatically to A3 (as has previously always been the case).
When the return flight credited automatically a few days after I knew something was up. Went to retro-register and the system picked up the original booking class (not A). It’s ‘just’ 1200 miles, but still a bummer.
Jul 16, 2019, 10:15 am
#890
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Preferable @30.000 feet
Programs: More than one
Posts: 1,673
Just to report that the recent changes on Plusgrade points/miles not changing with the upgrade seems to have come into effect, at least when crediting to ffp other than EB.
My recent outbound flight upgraded with minimum cash offer did not credit automatically to A3 (as has previously always been the case).
When the return flight credited automatically a few days after I knew something was up. Went to retro-register and the system picked up the original booking class (not A). It’s ‘just’ 1200 miles, but still a bummer.
My recent outbound flight upgraded with minimum cash offer did not credit automatically to A3 (as has previously always been the case).
When the return flight credited automatically a few days after I knew something was up. Went to retro-register and the system picked up the original booking class (not A). It’s ‘just’ 1200 miles, but still a bummer.
I thought plusgrades upgrade paid with money were still going to give points based on the upgraded class, and it only were plusgrade upgrades paid with points which wouldn't give points according to the upgraded class.
Beside that SK stated they will make a proper announcement before it went into effect. I would write to the customer service and challenge the missing points if I were in your position.
Jul 16, 2019, 10:33 am
#891
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: VNO
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond
Posts: 111
We are talking here - afaik - about a credit to another program rather than Eurobonus. That was always clearly stated that this was not guaranteed (while crediting to Eurobonus had been proactively promoted). I read the conditions in the official PDF that can be downloaded from the SAS website.
It clearly states: If you are upgraded, you’ll earn EuroBonus points according to the new service class. Please note that when you are upgraded, you cannot earn points from any other frequent flyer programs even if another loyalty program membership number is assigned to your original reservation. If you have purchased an award ticket you will not accrue EuroBonus points on your upgrade as award tickets are not eligible for point accrual
It clearly states: If you are upgraded, you’ll earn EuroBonus points according to the new service class. Please note that when you are upgraded, you cannot earn points from any other frequent flyer programs even if another loyalty program membership number is assigned to your original reservation. If you have purchased an award ticket you will not accrue EuroBonus points on your upgrade as award tickets are not eligible for point accrual
Jul 16, 2019, 11:16 am
#892
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: AGH
Posts: 5,979
Since day 1, they said other FFPs will get credit according to the booked ticket, not the upgraded ticket. I guess they figured out the loophole by now and closed this.
Jul 19, 2019, 3:34 am
#894
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: CPH, Swedish side of the bridge
Programs: SK*G (EBD)
Posts: 574
We are talking here - afaik - about a credit to another program rather than Eurobonus. That was always clearly stated that this was not guaranteed (while crediting to Eurobonus had been proactively promoted). I read the conditions in the official PDF that can be downloaded from the SAS website.
Q: CAN I PLACE A BID BOTH FOR PLUS & BUSINESS?
Yes you can, in fact this increases your chances of getting Upgraded as we have more seats in Plus than Business. Just bid for Business first and then place a fall back bid in Plus. We will try to upgrade you to Business and if not successful we will try with Plus.
Does anyone know how to do this? I have never seen an option to bid for both...
Jul 19, 2019, 4:38 am
#895
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Preferable @30.000 feet
Programs: More than one
Posts: 1,673
Looking at the pdf in the link above I found this:
Q: CAN I PLACE A BID BOTH FOR PLUS & BUSINESS?
Yes you can, in fact this increases your chances of getting Upgraded as we have more seats in Plus than Business. Just bid for Business first and then place a fall back bid in Plus. We will try to upgrade you to Business and if not successful we will try with Plus.
Does anyone know how to do this? I have never seen an option to bid for both...
Q: CAN I PLACE A BID BOTH FOR PLUS & BUSINESS?
Yes you can, in fact this increases your chances of getting Upgraded as we have more seats in Plus than Business. Just bid for Business first and then place a fall back bid in Plus. We will try to upgrade you to Business and if not successful we will try with Plus.
Does anyone know how to do this? I have never seen an option to bid for both...
Jul 20, 2019, 10:20 am
#896
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: CPH, Swedish side of the bridge
Programs: SK*G (EBD)
Posts: 574
BTW - sorry for the double post - I asked this earlier, and forgot about posting it or checking up on it. In my mind I remembered thinking about posting it, but never did...
Aug 20, 2019, 6:45 pm
#899
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,166
Aug 29, 2019, 3:38 am
#900
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,774
Currently booked in Plus. Any advice on how many points to bid for an upgrade to Business on ORD-CPH in about 3 weeks for 2 pax? Status is C7 D6 Z3 J0 and the seat map currently shows 8 open seats, with 6 seats having been filled in the last couple of days.
When I log in to make the bid, the suggested amount is 33,000 which shows the pointer on the line between "a bit low" and "still modest." The minimum points available for bid is 25,020. I don't have any status on SK. I've got just enough points to bid as high as 33,600 per person but could transfer a bit more from AmEx if needed (although that takes 3-5 days).
Also, is it better to place the bid immediately or wait until closer to departure?
When I log in to make the bid, the suggested amount is 33,000 which shows the pointer on the line between "a bit low" and "still modest." The minimum points available for bid is 25,020. I don't have any status on SK. I've got just enough points to bid as high as 33,600 per person but could transfer a bit more from AmEx if needed (although that takes 3-5 days).
Also, is it better to place the bid immediately or wait until closer to departure?