BART Commuters Warned To Prepare For Potential Strike
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Maintenance workers (and other service employees) approve new contract, station agents and train operators reject it: http://bart.gov/news/articles/2009/news20090811.aspx
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More:
http://www.insidebayarea.com/search/ci_13037270
Basically, if management and one of the unions follow through on what they say they will do, a strike is likely.
http://www.insidebayarea.com/search/ci_13037270
Basically, if management and one of the unions follow through on what they say they will do, a strike is likely.
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Contract Showdown Looming With BART Union
OAKLAND, Calif. -- Talks with the only BART labor union not to approve a new contract have reached an impasse, elevating the chances of strike against the Bay Area transit agency.
BART chief spokesman Linton Johnson said management ended its talks with leaders of Amalgamated Transit Union Local 1555, which represents about 900 train operators, station agents and power workers, at 9:45 p.m. Wednesday night after the union rejected BART's "last, best and final" contract offer.
BARTs Board Of Directors has scheduled an emergency meeting for 11 a.m. and will consider imposing contract terms unilaterally on the union.
ATU chapter president Jesse Hunt said that if the board adopts terms and conditions, "that would certainly precipitate a work action, but we're doing everything we can to avoid that."
BART chief spokesman Linton Johnson said management ended its talks with leaders of Amalgamated Transit Union Local 1555, which represents about 900 train operators, station agents and power workers, at 9:45 p.m. Wednesday night after the union rejected BART's "last, best and final" contract offer.
BARTs Board Of Directors has scheduled an emergency meeting for 11 a.m. and will consider imposing contract terms unilaterally on the union.
ATU chapter president Jesse Hunt said that if the board adopts terms and conditions, "that would certainly precipitate a work action, but we're doing everything we can to avoid that."
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At the risk of being "omni-ized" I note the average BART union worker makes $114,000 per year in wages and benefits. Given the current economic situation, there will be no shortage of replacement worker applicants if the union strikes.
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This is really not going to affect most tourists, particularly if you plan to stay within the city of SF or rent a vehicle for travel outside the city. The only major downside will be lack of public transit to OAK and SFO airports. In the case of SFO, you can get a pretty cheap supershuttle and cabs are @ $40 to downtown, so for a family of 4 you won't lose sleep. OAK is a bit more pricey from the city.
For a family of four, BART is up to $64 to downtown, so a taxi is only a little more and may save time. Of course, that assumes you can find a taxi.
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I would do just that, but I don't have a car. I hope I can bum a ride at least once or twice until this is settled to save some $$.
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As of right now, Saturday morning, the strike is still back on starting with the beginning of service on Monday (August 17) due to the train operators/station agent union voting down the contract. Could still change....but not looking great.
Edited to add: SAMtrans has announced that the KX bus will add stops so it can be taken to/from SFO and Millbrae BART where you can connect to Caltrain to and from San Francisco. Might well be darn crowded though!
Edited to add: SAMtrans has announced that the KX bus will add stops so it can be taken to/from SFO and Millbrae BART where you can connect to Caltrain to and from San Francisco. Might well be darn crowded though!
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I don't think it'll last that long, but man, can you imagine what this would be like if it lasts until Labor Day weekend when the bay bridge is scheduled to be closed again?
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Do you have any idea if they've dropped the no-luggage restriction on the KX bus during the strike? Checked Samtrans' webpage, but didn't see any info on that detail.
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Not saying that it's still not a lot of money, but these aren't your run-of-the-mill train operators and station agents that are easy to replace.
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According to Salary.com. the median pay rate for a locomotive engineer is about $61,000 a year. And working for major railroads in this position means that unless you have incredible seniority, you are "on call," NOT scheduled for primarily shift work like the BART employees.
I'd guess that if they offered the current contract to the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen, (instead of the Amalgamated Transit Union who currently has the contract) Union Pacific and BNSF would have to scramble to keep freight trains in the Bay area running...because it's a MUCH better deal than "real" train crews get. Moreover, much more of the operations of trains is remotely automated than the typical freight or passenger train. BART was origianlly designed for entirely remote operation, with the "engineer" handling little more than door open-close and "clear to next signal."
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And now according to http://www.bart.gov/news/articles/20...s20090815.aspx they won't be striking tomorrow...but who knows about the rest of the week...

