any LDW from rental co = no coverage from credit card?
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any LDW from rental co = no coverage from credit card?
I am sure this has been discussed here, but I am not sure how to find it.
I have a credit card with primary LDW outside the US, no deductible. If I pay for the minimum level of coverage from the renter (Europcar), which comes with a high deductible (~$1400) and does not cover wheels/tires/lights, is that a Catch-22? What I mean is, would it actually cost me more money if there are any losses, since I haven't followed the CC requirement to decline rental company's coverage?
I have a credit card with primary LDW outside the US, no deductible. If I pay for the minimum level of coverage from the renter (Europcar), which comes with a high deductible (~$1400) and does not cover wheels/tires/lights, is that a Catch-22? What I mean is, would it actually cost me more money if there are any losses, since I haven't followed the CC requirement to decline rental company's coverage?
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I have a credit card with primary LDW outside the US, no deductible. If I pay for the minimum level of coverage from the renter (Europcar), which comes with a high deductible (~$1400) and does not cover wheels/tires/lights, is that a Catch-22? What I mean is, would it actually cost me more money if there are any losses, since I haven't followed the CC requirement to decline rental company's coverage?
Nevertheless, subject to applicable T&Cs, the following should happen in case when the LDW coverage is triggered:
1. Car rental's own LDW coverage has the highest priority (because the car rental company will never bother working with others).
2. If there is any amount that the car rental LDW does not cover, the credit card will take care the rest.
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Generally, no, it won't. The typical terms and conditions for credit card CDW specify that it's only valid if you decline the rental company's CDW. If you take the rental company's coverage, then the credit card CDW won't apply at all.
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I guess I don't feel entirely comfortable having no AutoEurope coverage; they say I am on the hook for the full price of the car. Some reports say AutoEurope is aggressive about finding flaws that they then bill you for---the CC will pay but it's a hassle.
Anyway, I know can just buy full (zero duductible) coverage if I want; I was just curious about how it works.
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I have, it just says I should decline the coverage. It does not state what happens if I don't. Both my current credit cards (from different issuers) have the same language.
I guess I don't feel entirely comfortable having no AutoEurope coverage; they say I am on the hook for the full price of the car. Some reports say AutoEurope is aggressive about finding flaws that they then bill you for---the CC will pay but it's a hassle.
Anyway, I know can just buy full (zero duductible) coverage if I want; I was just curious about how it works.
I guess I don't feel entirely comfortable having no AutoEurope coverage; they say I am on the hook for the full price of the car. Some reports say AutoEurope is aggressive about finding flaws that they then bill you for---the CC will pay but it's a hassle.
Anyway, I know can just buy full (zero duductible) coverage if I want; I was just curious about how it works.
If you don't want the hassle of dealing with the credit-card's insurer in the event of an accident, then you can pay the rental-car company's fees for LDW coverage -- either full or partial, depending upon your risk tolerance.
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Assuming the CC honors the primary LDW coverage, there is no need to purchase another LDW coverage from the rental.
Nevertheless, subject to applicable T&Cs, the following should happen in case when the LDW coverage is triggered:
1. Car rental's own LDW coverage has the highest priority (because the car rental company will never bother working with others).
2. If there is any amount that the car rental LDW does not cover, the credit card will take care the rest.
Nevertheless, subject to applicable T&Cs, the following should happen in case when the LDW coverage is triggered:
1. Car rental's own LDW coverage has the highest priority (because the car rental company will never bother working with others).
2. If there is any amount that the car rental LDW does not cover, the credit card will take care the rest.
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As the rental-car companies -- at least in the U.S. -- are quick to point out, LDW (loss/damage waiver) is not insurance; it is simply a waiver of the rental-car company's right to pursue the renter in the event that loss or certain types of damage occur while the car is rented to the renter.
See, for example:
https://www.nationalcar.com/en/suppo...ge-waiver.html
and
https://www.budget.com/en/products-s...-damage-waiver
(Again, I have no idea if LDW is treated differently in Europe.)
See, for example:
https://www.nationalcar.com/en/suppo...ge-waiver.html
and
https://www.budget.com/en/products-s...-damage-waiver
(Again, I have no idea if LDW is treated differently in Europe.)
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As the rental-car companies -- at least in the U.S. -- are quick to point out, LDW (loss/damage waiver) is not insurance; it is simply a waiver of the rental-car company's right to pursue the renter in the event that loss or certain types of damage occur while the car is rented to the renter.
Also - for each location that sells optional coverage, the car rental personnel selling the coverage must be licensed by the state's insurance regulatory agency. They are usually known as rental car agent or limited line agent.
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This is because the liability insurance that rental car companies sell actually IS insurance. They sell liability insurance (typically dubbed SLI or something similar) under which the rental car company is providing you with insurance against claims by a third party. They also sell personal accident insurance, personal effects coverage, etc. In all these cases, the rental car company is agreeing (or their partner insurer is agreeing) to cover your losses or someone else's losses. This is insurance. LDW/CDW when provided by the rental car company isn't insurance,
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Chase and Citi are very clear that their credit card coverage only applies if you decline the CDW from the rental company. Amex will apparently let you pay for a partial CDW from the rental car company, although I've never seen one of those in the US market.
For Chase: "If you accept the collision damage waiver offered by the rental company, you will not be eligible for Auto Rental CDW."
For Citibank: "We will cover you up to $50,000 toward the cost of repairs or the cash value of the car, whichever is less, if a covered accident or theft occurs when you pay for a rental car with your Citi card and/or ThankYouŽ Points and decline the rental company’s collision loss/damage insurance."
For Amex: "Coverage for Theft of or Damage to an eligible Rental Vehicle is activated when...You decline the full collision damage waiver (CDW) or similar option, or pay for a partial collision damage waiver, offered by the Rental Company"
For Chase: "If you accept the collision damage waiver offered by the rental company, you will not be eligible for Auto Rental CDW."
For Citibank: "We will cover you up to $50,000 toward the cost of repairs or the cash value of the car, whichever is less, if a covered accident or theft occurs when you pay for a rental car with your Citi card and/or ThankYouŽ Points and decline the rental company’s collision loss/damage insurance."
For Amex: "Coverage for Theft of or Damage to an eligible Rental Vehicle is activated when...You decline the full collision damage waiver (CDW) or similar option, or pay for a partial collision damage waiver, offered by the Rental Company"
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