Apr 19, 2016, 6:38 am
Last edit by: sabbasolo
Kosher Meals MasterList.
- Aegean
Stogel Long Life.
- Air Baltic
Stogel
- Alitalia
Langerhuize Catering Amsterdam.
- American
Ex JFK, MIA, DFW - Borenstein
Ex LAX - Inflight Delite - Koshair
Ex MXP, LHR, HKG - Hermolis
Ex NRT - Stogel Frozen (Not long life) - Ex VCE-ORD - Hermolis ( I was expecting it from Lugano
- EX PRG-PHL Herrmolis (Shepherds Pie my favorite)
- ANA
Ex BRU: Stogel - Asiana
Hermolis.
ICN-XIY Kantor from BKK worse then a long life Stogel
- Austrian
Ex-North America: Borenstein
Ex-Europe:
- British Airways
Hermolis.
Exceptions:
KBP - LHR , kosher from Ukraine.
TLV - LHR , Hamasbia.
Comair, "Totally Kosher" South Africa.
Ex-US
- Brussels Airlines
Ex. Bru: Stogel - Ex JFK: Regal
- Cathay Pacific & Cathay Dragon
Ex AMS: Langerhuize (as of Oct 2018)
Ex CDG: Langerhuize (as of Feb 2019)
Ex DUS: WAM
Ex HKG: Hermolis (as of Feb 2023)
Ex ICN: Hermolis (as of Nov 2019)
Ex KIX: Hermolis (as of May 2019)
Ex LHR: Hermolis
Ex NRT: Hermolis (as of Feb 2023)
Ex NYC: Borenstein
Ex SIN: Hermolis (as of Oct 2022)
Ex SYD: Lewis
Ex TPE: for CX: Hermolis (as of Nov 2019)
Ex TPE: for KA: Stogel Long Life, even in J class (as of Nov 2018)
Ex ZRH: Schalom (as of Mar 2024)
- China Airlines
Ex TPE: Stogel
Ex-BKK: Rabbi Kantor, Bangkok Catering
Ex-Amsterdam: Langerhuize catering Amsterdam. - Delta
Ex-JFK: Regal
Ex-TLV: Hamasbia - Emirates
Ex-UK: Hermolis
Ex-DXB: KosherArabia
ex-MEL: Unger - EVA
Ex-JFK: Hermolis
Ex-TPE: Hermolis
Ex- MNL: Rabbi Kantor, Bangkok Catering
- Finnair
Ex HEL: Stogel long life (in Y, as of Apr 2019)
Ex HKG: Hermolis (as of Apr 2019)
- Japan Airlines
Stogel
- La Compagnie
Langerhuize
JFK-WAW (Biz) Zetko well nice dinner tray, breakfast was OK alittle weak
- Malaysia Airlines
Hermolis
- Qatar Airways
WAM
- Royal Jordanian
Tamam.
- Singapore Airlines
Hermolis.
Ex ARN & DME Russian supplier - Swiss
ex ZRH Schalom Catering, (Rabbi Schwartz Vienna)
ex GVA French supplier WAM (not edible)
- Thai Airways
Rabbi Kantor, Bangkok Catering
- Turkish Airlines
Ex HKG: Hermolis (as of Jan 2024)
- United Airlines
ex-North America: Regal
ex-Israel: Hamasbia
ex-Switzerland: Schalom (Zurich)
ex-ATH: Stogel (5/29)
ex-HAM: Stogel
ex LHR in J Stogel frozen version
Ex JFK- Borenstien
- Qatar Airways
WAM
Master Thread: Kosher Meals
Apr 24, 2015, 8:11 am
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Interesting article (in Hebrew though) about Stogel ... this board is clearly not the only place people complain about it:
http://www.bhol.co.il/ColumnArticle....&cat=4&scat=34
http://www.bhol.co.il/ColumnArticle....&cat=4&scat=34
Apr 24, 2015, 8:32 am
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Interesting article (in Hebrew though) about Stogel ... this board is clearly not the only place people complain about it:
http://www.bhol.co.il/ColumnArticle....&cat=4&scat=34
http://www.bhol.co.il/ColumnArticle....&cat=4&scat=34
The blame should rest with Stogel for not improving the quality and with the Airlines for not insisting they improve or finding a better alternative.
Saying that the hechsher forces people to eat not kosher is a ridiculous assertion.
Apr 24, 2015, 9:45 am
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I don't get why he blames the hechsher for the quality of the meal, They are just making sure it is kosher.
The blame should rest with Stogel for not improving the quality and with the Airlines for not insisting they improve or finding a better alternative.
Saying that the hechsher forces people to eat not kosher is a ridiculous assertion.
The blame should rest with Stogel for not improving the quality and with the Airlines for not insisting they improve or finding a better alternative.
Saying that the hechsher forces people to eat not kosher is a ridiculous assertion.
Most of the blame belongs on the different Carriers who simply want to spend as little as they can. Along comes Stogel and they probably want to earn $x per meal provided,so they work backwards, OK we want $3 a meal profit, the Carrier is only willing to spend $x per meal and our costs must fall in between. Lets not forget they need to lower bid then the other vendors as well
On top of that when I see the exp date of 1/31/16 I know its all sodium and other preservatives. Its really no different then an out-of-town place where the food in the restaurant is dreadful and the locals are simply happy to have anything being available. Of cause such a place wouldnt last a week in NY,LA,Miami but in the likes of a Detroit,SanFran,etc etc they can and do get away with it
Apr 24, 2015, 9:55 am
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I agree no blame for the actual meal should be blamed on whomever gives the hecksher.
Most of the blame belongs on the different Carriers who simply want to spend as little as they can. Along comes Stogel and they probably want to earn $x per meal provided,so they work backwards, OK we want $3 a meal profit, the Carrier is only willing to spend $x per meal and our costs must fall in between. Lets not forget they need to lower bid then the other vendors as well
On top of that when I see the exp date of 1/31/16 I know its all sodium and other preservatives. Its really no different then an out-of-town place where the food in the restaurant is dreadful and the locals are simply happy to have anything being available. Of cause such a place wouldnt last a week in NY,LA,Miami but in the likes of a Detroit,SanFran,etc etc they can and do get away with it
Most of the blame belongs on the different Carriers who simply want to spend as little as they can. Along comes Stogel and they probably want to earn $x per meal provided,so they work backwards, OK we want $3 a meal profit, the Carrier is only willing to spend $x per meal and our costs must fall in between. Lets not forget they need to lower bid then the other vendors as well
On top of that when I see the exp date of 1/31/16 I know its all sodium and other preservatives. Its really no different then an out-of-town place where the food in the restaurant is dreadful and the locals are simply happy to have anything being available. Of cause such a place wouldnt last a week in NY,LA,Miami but in the likes of a Detroit,SanFran,etc etc they can and do get away with it
Even in coach, the difference between UA and AA kosher meals is noticeable. (I can't look at the UA KoshAir ravioli, I've gotten it so many times...)
Apr 24, 2015, 10:10 am
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I completely agree! When I fly on UA in premium cabins, the kosher meals are not nearly as good as on AA in premium cabins (not that on AA it's that great), but ultimately it boils down to what the carrier is willing to pay.
Even in coach, the difference between UA and AA kosher meals is noticeable. (I can't look at the UA KoshAir ravioli, I've gotten it so many times...)
Even in coach, the difference between UA and AA kosher meals is noticeable. (I can't look at the UA KoshAir ravioli, I've gotten it so many times...)
I take it since it seems you arent WC or EC based that you are talking about UAs Intl flights out of ORD or connecting out of a Hub somewhere. I think by now all the hubs are Regal and KA has finally been given the shaft at least EC & WC wise.
I had 3 Asian trips back in Jan/Feb and only 1 meal was KA, it was breakfast and a cheese omlett which I prefer to Regals parve meal,but gladly will forgo it just to know KA is dead and gone
Apr 24, 2015, 10:15 am
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To be fair on my AA business trancons Ive gotten what at best is a Y KSML on an Intl flight, while UA now with Regal does serve a meal like it does on their Intl BF flights. Havent flown AA 1st no reason to,to say if those meals are any bettter. However outside of the meals AA kills UA
I take it since it seems you arent WC or EC based that you are talking about UAs Intl flights out of ORD or connecting out of a Hub somewhere. I think by now all the hubs are Regal and KA has finally been given the shaft at least EC & WC wise.
I had 3 Asian trips back in Jan/Feb and only 1 meal was KA, it was breakfast and a cheese omlett which I prefer to Regals parve meal,but gladly will forgo it just to know KA is dead and gone
I take it since it seems you arent WC or EC based that you are talking about UAs Intl flights out of ORD or connecting out of a Hub somewhere. I think by now all the hubs are Regal and KA has finally been given the shaft at least EC & WC wise.
I had 3 Asian trips back in Jan/Feb and only 1 meal was KA, it was breakfast and a cheese omlett which I prefer to Regals parve meal,but gladly will forgo it just to know KA is dead and gone
Apr 24, 2015, 10:27 am
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2- unfortunately the entree is the only item that is edible on the whole tray. I do miss the apple slice pie they had on their Biz meal trays on the trancons but thats all I miss. KA always had french toast as their breakfast entree JFK-LAX/SFO so I simply hoped they didnt load it and was very
at the eCert that PMUA would give me. Now COUA throws a few K of RDMs at me. Thats OK as Im Plat till 2/17 and they have seen the last dime out of me except for the taxes that needs to be paid for my award tkts.
Apr 24, 2015, 11:22 am
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1- when was the last time you got KA?
2- unfortunately the entree is the only item that is edible on the whole tray. I do miss the apple slice pie they had on their Biz meal trays on the trancons but thats all I miss. KA always had french toast as their breakfast entree JFK-LAX/SFO so I simply hoped they didnt load it and was very at the eCert that PMUA would give me. Now COUA throws a few K of RDMs at me. Thats OK as Im Plat till 2/17 and they have seen the last dime out of me except for the taxes that needs to be paid for my award tkts.
2- unfortunately the entree is the only item that is edible on the whole tray. I do miss the apple slice pie they had on their Biz meal trays on the trancons but thats all I miss. KA always had french toast as their breakfast entree JFK-LAX/SFO so I simply hoped they didnt load it and was very
at the eCert that PMUA would give me. Now COUA throws a few K of RDMs at me. Thats OK as Im Plat till 2/17 and they have seen the last dime out of me except for the taxes that needs to be paid for my award tkts.
Apr 24, 2015, 11:32 am
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I believe starting with 1/1 they pretty much ditched KA.On my SFO-Asian trips since 1/1 its been Regal every time . Havent flown IAH or ORD Intl so cant comment. But LAX and EWR were also Regal
Apr 26, 2015, 9:11 am
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Skipped the free breakfast at my hotel since I had a 10am flight and knew my meal would be served soon after. What a mistake turns out UA is using Stogel out of ZRH (they probably under bidded the local company by 10 cents) anyway although in Biz it was a Y meal and had an exp date of 1/31/16 that was enough for me.I did open the entree and got 1 smell of the contents and simply handed the whole tray right back to the FA
Didnt eat anything the whole flight, a real pity since I hold the Zurich kosher caterer to be the 2nd best meal in the air after Hermolis of cause. Next time it will be LX
So much for all the spin by UA of improving its meals, or could be they are at the expense of the KSML ones
Didnt eat anything the whole flight, a real pity since I hold the Zurich kosher caterer to be the 2nd best meal in the air after Hermolis of cause. Next time it will be LX
So much for all the spin by UA of improving its meals, or could be they are at the expense of the KSML ones
May 4, 2015, 8:50 am
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Does anyone know which company supplies the kosher food which is orderable on Jetairfly TLV-BRU? (25 euro so don't want to receive rubbish)
May 4, 2015, 10:12 am
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Curiously, there is no extra charge for halal and vegetarian food and no other special meal, diabetic or gluten-free, costs more than € 7.00 on top of the standard meal charge.
May 4, 2015, 10:42 am
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Actually, it's € 34.00, € 9.00 charge for the standard meal plus a € 25.00 supplement for kosher.
Curiously, there is no extra charge for halal and vegetarian food and no other special meal, diabetic or gluten-free, costs more than € 7.00 on top of the standard meal charge.
Curiously, there is no extra charge for halal and vegetarian food and no other special meal, diabetic or gluten-free, costs more than € 7.00 on top of the standard meal charge.
May 4, 2015, 11:08 am
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I was under the impression that halal preparation requires certification, similar to kosher, that should entail extra costs; yet, Jetairfly sells halal food without charging more than for the standard offerings.