Pay for exit rows
#64
Join Date: Jan 2006
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#65
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#66
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SYD, BNE and BKK
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Pre-allocating exit rows was a benefit, although unwritten, of being Platinum and if QF are taking this away then there is no point in me flying with QF and sitting behind Golds and Silvers who have booked their trip months in advance. I may as well end up flying with whatever full service carrier is offering the cheapest airfare.
QF appears to be slowly bleeding away the Platinum benefits which in my opinion is not a wise move in this economic climate. They should be offering more benefits to Platinums not taking them away....
#67
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*I guess I could say that sort of things this year because I'm expecting to get around 3000-5000 SCs this year though. I may feel differently if I were 'only just qualifying'.
#68
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: London, UK
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Actually not quite true. For people travelling at the back of the bus, QF has with BA the most difficult programme to qualify for status. It's only at the front of the cabin where you really start to earn. From what I can see, AA CX/KA, JL and AY all have easier programmes when it comes to earning status and flying in Y. I have to however admit that I don't know enough about LA, RJ & MA's programmes to really comment about them.
#69
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Maybe I find it easy because I didn't feel like I did a lot of flying when I first qualified - it was just a weekly domestic commute - approx 4 hours a week spent flying, so averaging 18 hours a month. Also that flying pattern would not have even earned me BAEC Silver and I tend to compare programs to BAEC.
#70
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Maybe I find it easy because I didn't feel like I did a lot of flying when I first qualified - it was just a weekly domestic commute - approx 4 hours a week spent flying, so averaging 18 hours a month. Also that flying pattern would not have even earned me BAEC Silver and I tend to compare programs to BAEC.
Also, it is skewed on domestic travel since SC earning on domestic is different than international
If comparing short domestic QF eligable vs BA eligable then it is pretty similar
20SCs vs 20 TPs in economy or 40 SCs vs 40 TPs
Both require 700 to attain Sapphire status normally, however those with a European address to use can drop this down to 400
On longer flights < 2000 miles then QF starts getting ahead but on something like SYD-PER ( > 2000 miles )
would earn 50SCs vs 60 TPs in economy and 100SCs vs 120TPs in business
On international journeys, the effect can be more pronounced. Travelling LHR-SIN-SYD ( for example ) on an H class fare
This would earn discount SCs , so would earn 65SCs vs 120TPs.
Qf is not necessarily easier than BA, it does depend on the type of travel
The key differentiators are that QF does give SCs on all fares whilst BA normally only gives them on H and above plus with BA, to attain gold status you have to attain silver and then start again for gold.. that however doesn't make QF easier per se in general since from attaining silver a new starts and then there is 12 months to attain gold.
Getting 1200 TPs to attain BA Gold ( using a Europe address ) can be quite a bit easier than attaining 1400 SCs for QF Platinum using international economy travel in classes B & H which are oft used by corporate deals
Dave
#71


Join Date: Jul 2004
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Maybe I find it easy because I didn't feel like I did a lot of flying when I first qualified - it was just a weekly domestic commute - approx 4 hours a week spent flying, so averaging 18 hours a month. Also that flying pattern would not have even earned me BAEC Silver and I tend to compare programs to BAEC.
For QF WP you could (just) qualify commuting weekly on discount economy, For BA Gold you could qualify in less time using flexible economy.
Eg MEL-BNE and LHR-FCO are similar distances - and approx 4hrs flying rtn.
On QF you could qualify on 47 return journeys travelling in Discount Economy tickets (30 SCs rtn for the 859 mile journey) - with WP qualifying at 1400 SCs, gee you wouldn't be taking many holidays on that weekly commute!
On BA you could qualify on 37 return journeys travelling in Flexible Economy (40TPs rtn on the 898 mile journey, Euro discount economy fares do not earn TPs on BA) - with BA Gold qualifying at 1500 TPs.
So yes, it is easier to earn SCs, on QF at the back of the bus if flying on discount.
BD
#72
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#73



Join Date: Mar 2007
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I am pretty sure this is not correct. I have been moved into the emergency exit rows on LCCs that charge for the seats by FA who have told me it is a requirement that those seats are occupied.
#74
Join Date: Apr 2006
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Exit rows on United can only be booked by elites until day of departure. They are part of Economy + product and if available can be purchased on day of departure. Regular Economy + seats can be purchased ahead of time.
#75
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For QF WP you could (just) qualify commuting weekly on discount economy, For BA Gold you could qualify in less time using flexible economy.
It's just my perspective that I do not even feel like I'd flown that much (4 hours a week is really nothing) when I first qualified as a WP - almost all in discount economy. So it seemed really easy. It must seem even easier for people who do not pay for their own flights.


