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Mar 10, 2003 | 9:47 pm

meloz

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Please explain the classes

Hi Guys

Can some of you more in the know give me a run down of the following classes and there meanings.2 SYD BKK 1815 2315 QF 1 F3 A3 J7 D3 Y9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9#744*C . I would also assume QF do not let on how many U seats are available.

Thanks

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:15 pm

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Originally posted by meloz:
Hi Guys
Can some of you more in the know give me a run down of the following classes and there meanings.2 SYD BKK 1815 2315 QF 1 F3 A3 J7 D3 Y9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9#744*C .

This is how it might look on ITN, using April 2 for QF1:

Cabin Class F6 A5 J9 D2 U0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 S9 V9 O9

First
Z Award (not visible on ITN)
F Full fare
A Discount

Business
U Award (visible on ITN)
J Full fare
D Discount

Economy
X Award (not visible on ITN)
Y Full fare
B, H Discount Y, but very few conditions
K More discounted, some conditions
M, L, S, V, O are usually heavily discounted, the level of discount (and attached conditions) in the order as displayed on ITN.

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I would also assume QF do not let on how many U seats are available.
Thanks

Ahem never assume.

As indicated above, the ITN site does show U.

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Mar 10, 2003 | 10:26 pm

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Thanks for that. Am travelling K on QF 1 this Friday and am silver, what are the chances of a U becoming available?

Meloz

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:30 pm

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You're too close to the travel date to waitlist, so start ringing NOW!!

Ring every day, even on the day of travel. I know they say they can't be done in less than 24 hours, but it has happened.

If there are D seats available, and economy is wide open, you've probably got a good chance.

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:31 pm

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Originally posted by meloz:
Thanks for that. Am travelling K on QF 1 this Friday and am silver, what are the chances of a U becoming available?

SFA, I would think. If anything does come up - through a cancellation, for example - it will go to someone with a waitlisted upgrade request.

When yield management go through it 24 hours prior to departure, they will allocate most (but not all) of the unsold J seats to the waitlist.

The only way you would have even half a chance would be if the waitlist is less than the number of unsold seats, and on QF1 this close to departure, I can't see it happening.

Sorry to disappoint you.

Dave

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:35 pm

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Originally posted by willyroo:
You're too close to the travel date to waitlist, so start ringing NOW!!

Ring every day, even on the day of travel. I know they say they can't be done in less than 24 hours, but it has happened.

If there are D seats available, and economy is wide open, you've probably got a good chance.

I disagree, willyroo - people would have been waitlisting on that flight ever since U class filled up. The waitlist for flights to LHR is usually a lot more than the available seats, and at this stage, any cancellation of a U class seat will go to someone waitlisted, rather than a fresh request.

The other thing to consider is that - if the availability line in the thread starter was for the flight concerned - it only had 7 J seats available (if it was more than 9 it would have shown 9, 8 or less and it shows the actual number).

I would venture that if there were only 7 empty J seats, the waitlist will MORE than fill these seats, baring in mind that they do not let them all go, keeping a couple for last minute sales.

Dave

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:39 pm

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Thanks Willy that's what I intended to do however I suspect the Doc is closer to the mark. I waitlisted the return about a month ago which is scheduled 11-4-03. You think a better chance there? Or would a Gold, Plat or Y class waitlisting after me jump the q?
Actually break that down as I think I know the answer re: gold / plat.

Cheers

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:41 pm

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Good point - although I was thinking of BKK rather than LHR. I've been on QF1 a couple of times, and J to BKK is usually open, and full from BKK to LHR.

I'll bet you 5 Hahns he gets his upgrade, on the proviso meloz gets off at BKK.

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:44 pm

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I will be stopping BKK and am happy to supply if it is true

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:54 pm

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Originally posted by willyroo:
Good point - although I was thinking of BKK rather than LHR. I've been on QF1 a couple of times, and J to BKK is usually open, and full from BKK to LHR.

I'll bet you 5 Hahns he gets his upgrade, on the proviso meloz gets off at BKK.

I agree to the bet, but place my own proviso that such Hahn's have to be supplied by me in a Qantas Club.

Dave

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:57 pm

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meloz - what is your QF FF status? WP, SG, QCPS, PS, QCNB or NB?

Dave

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:58 pm

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hmmm, that was my choice of location for pay out also DOC

Mar 10, 2003 | 10:59 pm

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QCPS

Mar 10, 2003 | 11:01 pm

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Originally posted by thadocta:
I agree to the bet, but place my own proviso that such Hahn's have to be supplied by me in a Qantas Club.
Dave

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Originally posted by meloz:
I will be stopping BKK and am happy to supply if it is true

You're on!

At least as a Silver, hopefully meloz might figure a bit more in the "U" stakes...

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