Memory lapse, QF 777-300ER?

MOD NOTE: Please respect the privacy of others AUS_MD. There is no real need to post the full name of a member. If you want to post a person's full name you should first consult them whether it is ok.. [Maybe a little difficult in this situation]. Using a person's real name can cause a number of problems as many of us are aware. We also do not know what people visit these forums..

Please next time just use their Flyertalk handle when quoting... and if they've given consent go ahead and use their full name.

Thanks for your understanding

EDIT Point taken - although I note that QF 777-300ER used his real name on his earlier posts and on his profile-attached webpage.

Aus_MD

What's a troll?

The analogy seems inappropriate. One can do what one likes within one's home. Outside the home, we don't have the same degree of choice, even in the airlines we fly. But I will say that an Internet forum is indeed like a TV, in the sense that you have adduced.

Is this a Qantas forum or "I love Qantas forum"?

A: Internet Troll

Look at the OP's join date, look at the number of posts in this time. Whole theme of OP seems to be negative, with baiting posts.

Nibble on the OP's bait if you must but I'll wait and see.

I'm sure it will be no loss to the OP, but I will not be responding to any more of his/her posts for the time being.

I don't understand the references to post frequency or "baiting". Are we supposed to track one another's post rate and positivity level? You seem to be making subjective assumptions about my motives. I'm at a loss to understand your sensitivity. If I've broken any rules by all means let me know.

Well,
(1) you have recently joined FT and
(2) have given yourself a name of Anti Qantas .. hardly a neutral name and
(3) You have started 2 threads , both of which have been v anti Qantas

This is where post rate / positivity comes in. If someone is normally a helpful person providing useful posts ( and this anti QF post is hardly that ) then humorous/negative posts are viewed differently to someone joining up and just posting anti airline comments

If you are not trolling, then it would be good to see some useful postings

Dave

Dave, I think this is getting out of hand. If you wish, we can communicate privately, perhaps via the forum administrators who have my email address. I have a feeling that this is all just a misunderstanding, perhaps resulting from a clash of styles. In the meantime, you may wish to read my very first post on FT (can't remember which forum it was now), which was an attempt to provide some helpful guidance to someone, and you may even find that it included some complimentary remarks about Qantas. I would suggest that we abandon this thread as I don't think it's productive to pursue this discussion publicly.

Thanks ...

Antiqantas, Is there a reason as to why you do not want to be contacted? I am not able to PM or email you. This makes it difficult to communicate privately.. Please PM me if you want...

Thankyou

No reason at all, except my desire not to publish my email address and my ignorance as to whether enabling PM would make my email address visible, which I presume it doesn't. So let me try to do that now.

Done (now PM-enabled)

Antiqantas

To roughly quote a respectable Monty Python line " is this a 5 minute argument or do you want the full half hour?"

"Then you must pay"

"I have, I have!!!!"

Clearly QF is not the only carrier with rude longhaul FAs. Does QF use the same type of bidding system for their crews?

Good question. However, I was thinking of QF employees generally, not just FAs. Yes, I've seen some blood-curdling in-flight incidents but I've also seen many that involve QF ground staff. In each case, an Asian passenger or couple was subjected to the most egregiously condescending and disrespectful treatment. On one occasion I actually intervened and chastised the employee involved.

I experienced some fairly rude behaviour at the Cityflyer desk in MEL this week when trying to rebook after a flight cancellation, but fortunately I don't have to deal with the ground crew often now that there is the quick check-in facility.

I don't think that QF is any more racist than Australians generally, and I think Australians (not being one myself) are quite a lot less racist than most other nationalities. On my last flight with SQ I was asked to assist with a passenger who had become unconscious. She was a young Asian woman and the male purser became extremely unpleasant to her when it was apparent that alcohol was involved. I don't really have a good explanation for his reaction but surmise that there was a cultural aspect to it. Can I generalize this to SQ? Not really.

I believe that most of the staff are professional and courteous, and I suspect that many of the changes (eg Jet* international) that are being effected at the moment are, in part, mechanisms to deal with 'legacy' staff.

I agree. You can often guess who the 'legacy' staff are on QF from their attitude and demeanour. I guess it's a hangover from the old days when flying was considered special, crews thought of themselves as being in an elite occuptation, and pax were almost looked down upon.

I guess some of this 'legacy' attitude has been passed down over the years to newer recruits but in my experience it is diminishing. Perhaps it is just the influence of individual CSMs on their crew. On a recent SYD-ADL-SYD day trip, the outward flight seemed very much 'legacy' service, yet on the return leg it was so much friendlier, almost in the mold of a DJ crew. Maybe that was just random but it was quite noticeable.

I don't doubt that part of reason for Jetstar's creation is to institute a new staff culture, not just a new cost base.