AY - ORD-SIN - $1991 r/t - Premium Economy
#16
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, NH Plat, Former UA 1K
Posts: 5,672
For those of you without status or a lower status level than Executive Platinum, if this earns 210k LP as an EXP, then the base earn is 95454 loyalty points.
Base Fare of a DONE4 from TYO is $5157.00. Throw in $1500 in taxes and fees and the total cost is around $6650 USD + time and redeemable miles to reposition to / from Tokyo.
Cost per LP = 665000 / 95454 = 6.967 cents USD which is fantastic
Base Fare of a DONE4 from TYO is $5157.00. Throw in $1500 in taxes and fees and the total cost is around $6650 USD + time and redeemable miles to reposition to / from Tokyo.
Cost per LP = 665000 / 95454 = 6.967 cents USD which is fantastic
Just as an example I've constructed this theoretical DONE5 all JL and QR it would put someone from zero at 128,100 LPs.
But this dismisses that you'd have to get between JFK and LAX, if you use AS for that and go via SEA or ANC, those get a 50% cabin bonus. AKL-SYD on QF gets a 25% cabin bonus, so that's additional LPs and RDMs, you'd be sitting at 140k going via ANC. Asia isn't really optimized in this scenario either, I don't know without re-working it but you might be able to squeeze more by taking QF or CX to Asia then over to India and JL back to Japan from there. I think you could max that option by QF to BKK or SIN, then CX to HKG and India, and JL from India to TYO.
From
To
HND (35°45'55"N 140°23'08"E) JFK (40°38'24"N 73°46'43"W) 25° (NE) 6772 mi
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) 10° (N) 8306 mi
DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) CPT (33°58'17"S 18°36'15"E) 210° (SW) 4615 mi
CPT (33°58'17"S 18°36'15"E) DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) 32° (NE) 4615 mi
DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) DUB (53°25'17"N 06°16'12"W) 319° (NW) 3528 mi
DUB (53°25'17"N 06°16'12"W) DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) 100° (E) 3528 mi
DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) AKL (37°00'29"S 174°47'30"E) 118° (SE) 9032 mi
SYD (33°56'46"S 151°10'38"E) HND (35°45'55"N 140°23'08"E) 351° (N) 4837 mi
Total: 45214 m (BIS miles)
To
HND (35°45'55"N 140°23'08"E) JFK (40°38'24"N 73°46'43"W) 25° (NE) 6772 mi
LAX (33°56'33"N 118°24'29"W) DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) 10° (N) 8306 mi
DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) CPT (33°58'17"S 18°36'15"E) 210° (SW) 4615 mi
CPT (33°58'17"S 18°36'15"E) DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) 32° (NE) 4615 mi
DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) DUB (53°25'17"N 06°16'12"W) 319° (NW) 3528 mi
DUB (53°25'17"N 06°16'12"W) DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) 100° (E) 3528 mi
DOH (25°16'23"N 51°36'29"E) AKL (37°00'29"S 174°47'30"E) 118° (SE) 9032 mi
SYD (33°56'46"S 151°10'38"E) HND (35°45'55"N 140°23'08"E) 351° (N) 4837 mi
Total: 45214 m (BIS miles)
#17
Original Poster
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: CLT
Posts: 1,908
In your scenario, someone starting with no AA status, you'd start gaining multipliers at 40k (40%) then a higher one at 75k (60%), so this is a pretty rough calculation but assuming the 150% cabin bonus on JL, QR, and AY you'd need a ~38,100 BIS mile trip for 98,454 base LPs (base + cabin bonus only), that's a pretty short DONE4.
Just as an example I've constructed this theoretical DONE5 all JL and QR it would put someone from zero at 128,100 LPs.
But this dismisses that you'd have to get between JFK and LAX, if you use AS for that and go via SEA or ANC, those get a 50% cabin bonus. AKL-SYD on QF gets a 25% cabin bonus, so that's additional LPs and RDMs, you'd be sitting at 140k going via ANC. Asia isn't really optimized in this scenario either, I don't know without re-working it but you might be able to squeeze more by taking QF or CX to Asia then over to India and JL back to Japan from there. I think you could max that option by QF to BKK or SIN, then CX to HKG and India, and JL from India to TYO.
Rinse and repeat next year and you're within easy striking distance of EXP (Same itinerary via ANC with all 80% PPRO bonus is 165k LPs)
Just as an example I've constructed this theoretical DONE5 all JL and QR it would put someone from zero at 128,100 LPs.
But this dismisses that you'd have to get between JFK and LAX, if you use AS for that and go via SEA or ANC, those get a 50% cabin bonus. AKL-SYD on QF gets a 25% cabin bonus, so that's additional LPs and RDMs, you'd be sitting at 140k going via ANC. Asia isn't really optimized in this scenario either, I don't know without re-working it but you might be able to squeeze more by taking QF or CX to Asia then over to India and JL back to Japan from there. I think you could max that option by QF to BKK or SIN, then CX to HKG and India, and JL from India to TYO.
Rinse and repeat next year and you're within easy striking distance of EXP (Same itinerary via ANC with all 80% PPRO bonus is 165k LPs)
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Platinum Pro - 80% Bonus
Executive Platinum - 120% Bonus
Thanks for your example RTW trip! It's a good start!
#18
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 526
In your scenario, someone starting with no AA status, you'd start gaining multipliers at 40k (40%) then a higher one at 75k (60%), so this is a pretty rough calculation but assuming the 150% cabin bonus on JL, QR, and AY you'd need a ~38,100 BIS mile trip for 98,454 base LPs (base + cabin bonus only), that's a pretty short DONE4.
Just as an example I've constructed this theoretical DONE5 all JL and QR it would put someone from zero at 128,100 LPs.
But this dismisses that you'd have to get between JFK and LAX, if you use AS for that and go via SEA or ANC, those get a 50% cabin bonus. AKL-SYD on QF gets a 25% cabin bonus, so that's additional LPs and RDMs, you'd be sitting at 140k going via ANC. Asia isn't really optimized in this scenario either, I don't know without re-working it but you might be able to squeeze more by taking QF or CX to Asia then over to India and JL back to Japan from there. I think you could max that option by QF to BKK or SIN, then CX to HKG and India, and JL from India to TYO.
Rinse and repeat next year and you're within easy striking distance of EXP (Same itinerary via ANC with all 80% PPRO bonus is 165k LPs)
Just as an example I've constructed this theoretical DONE5 all JL and QR it would put someone from zero at 128,100 LPs.
But this dismisses that you'd have to get between JFK and LAX, if you use AS for that and go via SEA or ANC, those get a 50% cabin bonus. AKL-SYD on QF gets a 25% cabin bonus, so that's additional LPs and RDMs, you'd be sitting at 140k going via ANC. Asia isn't really optimized in this scenario either, I don't know without re-working it but you might be able to squeeze more by taking QF or CX to Asia then over to India and JL back to Japan from there. I think you could max that option by QF to BKK or SIN, then CX to HKG and India, and JL from India to TYO.
Rinse and repeat next year and you're within easy striking distance of EXP (Same itinerary via ANC with all 80% PPRO bonus is 165k LPs)
Last edited by anc305; Mar 28, 2024 at 10:13 am
#19
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: NRT / HND
Programs: AA EXP, NH Plat, Former UA 1K
Posts: 5,672
I did the math yesterday. My original posted routing (HND-JFK-ANC-LAX-LIR-LAX-SJO-LAX-DOH-CMN-DOH-DUB-DOH-AKL-HKG-BLR-NRT) yields 165K+ and PPro from scratch on a DONE4 if I did it correct ? I had promised a newly retierd friend a few moths ago to help him get status and some international travel. The cost is @$6300 as taxes out of Japan seem to be lower. 26 LP/RDM per $ for J class is not bad. Getting to Japan is also cheap. 35-50K miles on AA fairly common. About the sign-up spend bonus on an AA credit card.
I'm still contemplating my next one, and your itinerary is inspirational but ANC in January isn't desirable, LOL. (That's when my NA sector would need to fall).
I do like that the OP of the thread has said that our cost per LP is quite good, so hopefully inspires a few other Premium fare mileage runners crediting to AA to shift their bargain hunts into these fares.