Apr 30, 2016, 12:36 pm
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OCTOBER 2016 UPDATE
LAX-JFK TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHTS:
1. Same day turns possible on the E-jets and morning 738s.
2. Bonuses now based on fare paid.
3. As of OCTOBER 2016, best fares are now around $1000. Fare tends to rise a few hundred for 2 pax. Fares can also occasionally rise for no discernible reason, but the price spikes have thus far proven to be temporary. Fares have the trend to drop during the year. Keep checking for fares in the $700-$800 ranges for best possible pricing.
4. Airport hotels with shuttles - Crowne Plaza Panama Airport & Riande Aeropuerto. The CP is slightly closer; the Riande is slightly nicer. The CP shuttle leaves the hotel every :00 and :30 and runs 24 hours but they seem to leave a few minutes early as it had left when I went down at 4:00AM on the dot. Also, note UberX charges a US$14 surcharge on top of the ~US$2 fare. CP has poor sound isolation, I could hear my neighbors on both sides including talking, crying baby etc. Had to wear earplugs to sleep.
5. Lounges:
Please refer to this thread for more detailed and accurate information on lounge access in general: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1656378-help-desk-will-i-have-lounge-access-access-rules-2016-a.html
6. PTY Customs:
NOTE: LAX-JFK NO LONGER VALID FOR LOWEST FARES (effective OCT 2016)
If you want the transcon bonus, enter the search with a connection in JFK. (e.g. LAX-JFK,JFK-MIA,MIA-PTY,PTY-JFK,JFK-SFO.) You can play around from there to get the best deal. Some of the better deals do not start and end in the same city (e.g. start in LAX, end in SFO may be cheaper than start/end in LAX).
Also, it's possible on the outbound portion to time it so you have no more than a 60-minute layover at JFK or MIA (though note that some of these flights aren't available on weekends). While yes, JFK is notorious for delays, this rarely applies for inbound red-eye flights. Also, note that AA 28 below is sometimes "hidden" if you're looking on Google Flights inside a much more expensive trip; that does not necessarily mean, however, that you can't get it for one of the trips under $1,000 (in other words, try it out to see).
NOTE: LAX-JFK NO LONGER VALID FOR LOWEST FARES (effective OCT 2016)
Below is the shortest-possible outbound itinerary that has the LAX-JFK transcon on AA's A321T with flat-bed seats:
LAX-JFK on AA 28
10:45pm - 7:22am
JFK-MIA on AA 200
8:15am - 11:24am
(Note: AA has now switched all of the metal it used on this leg - on all JFK-MIA nonstops - to 757s instead of the 767s with international-style F & J seating.)***767 and 772 are back. Flight 200 is a 772**
MIA-PTY on AA 4434
12:33pm - 2:48pm
(Note: Even more distressingly, AA switched from using a 737 on this leg to an RJ, presumably because summer is off-peak season in Central America. The 6:05pm flight still uses a 737 if a full-size aircraft is a must.)
LAX-JFK TRANSCONTINENTAL FLIGHTS:
Recent fare rule inclusions, effective October 2016, now prevent any routing via JFK on the non-stop transcontinental A321T aircraft. Any future booking will demand a significantly higher fare to route on the non-stops via JFK. Unless the fare rules are modified and these clauses are removed (highly doubtful), the ability to fly on the transcons via JFK is a thing of the past.
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN LAX AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SFO AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SFO AND NYC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AA FLIGHT OPERATED BY AA
BUT NOT ON AIRBUS INDUSTRIE A321 (SHARKLETS) AIRCRAFT.
1. Same day turns possible on the E-jets and morning 738s.
2. Bonuses now based on fare paid.
3. As of OCTOBER 2016, best fares are now around $1000. Fare tends to rise a few hundred for 2 pax. Fares can also occasionally rise for no discernible reason, but the price spikes have thus far proven to be temporary. Fares have the trend to drop during the year. Keep checking for fares in the $700-$800 ranges for best possible pricing.
4. Airport hotels with shuttles - Crowne Plaza Panama Airport & Riande Aeropuerto. The CP is slightly closer; the Riande is slightly nicer. The CP shuttle leaves the hotel every :00 and :30 and runs 24 hours but they seem to leave a few minutes early as it had left when I went down at 4:00AM on the dot. Also, note UberX charges a US$14 surcharge on top of the ~US$2 fare. CP has poor sound isolation, I could hear my neighbors on both sides including talking, crying baby etc. Had to wear earplugs to sleep.
5. Lounges:
Please refer to this thread for more detailed and accurate information on lounge access in general: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/american-airlines-aadvantage/1656378-help-desk-will-i-have-lounge-access-access-rules-2016-a.html
LAX AIRPORT
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on status, it is simply departing/connecting/arriving at any point on same ticket to and from an eligible international destination. PTY is eligible and not excluded regardless of length.
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on class of service disregarding status, it is the international long haul clause that applies. Therefore, no "oneworld/QF lounge" access for non-elites for trips to and from PTY unless booking transcons since PTY is under 5 hours. BUT AA doesn't enforce this in their own lounges so Admirals Club access is expected.
AA GOLDs(RUBYs)/NON-ELITES
Admirals Club access is granted regardless of routing as AA does not enforce international long haul rule. However, the oneworld J lounge does for Golds(rubys)/non-elites as they are aware the PTY flights are under 5 hours. Booking transcon flights in J/F gains access to the OWJ/QFF lounges.
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Technically NONE (PTY under 5 hours therefore class of service rule applies) BUT AA still opens Admirals Club doors to all customers because they dont enforce the long-haul rule>
AA PLATINUMs
Platinums gain access to all AC/Business lounges regardless of routing due to flying to and from PTY. They gain access to First/Flagship lounges when traveling in F 3-class transcon
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + LAX oneworld J>
AA EXPs
EXPs have access to all lounges at all airports regardless of routing so long as they are traveling to and from PTY on the same itinerary (an international destination neither excluded from AA's list of ineligible regions nor limited by the flight length rule)
<EXPs Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in Y = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in J = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
NON-AA ONEWORLD ELITES
All sapphires and emeralds have some form of lounge access on any flight systemwide
<non-AA sapphires on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX>
<non-AA emeralds on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX + Flagship Lounge + QF F lounge LAX>
OTHER AIRPORTS
SFO - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
JFK - Admirals Club & Flagship Lounge for EXP/First 3-class/Emerald
MIA - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee), Oneworld Premium Lounge for EXP/First 3-Class/Emerald
PTY - No lounge access (Copa with PP, or for a fee, for 7am or later flights)
YVR - No lounge access (PP for a fee)
DFW - Admiral's Club (with F/C Dining for EXP/Emerald) (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on status, it is simply departing/connecting/arriving at any point on same ticket to and from an eligible international destination. PTY is eligible and not excluded regardless of length.
= When trying to gain oneworld J / QF F access based on class of service disregarding status, it is the international long haul clause that applies. Therefore, no "oneworld/QF lounge" access for non-elites for trips to and from PTY unless booking transcons since PTY is under 5 hours. BUT AA doesn't enforce this in their own lounges so Admirals Club access is expected.
AA GOLDs(RUBYs)/NON-ELITES
Admirals Club access is granted regardless of routing as AA does not enforce international long haul rule. However, the oneworld J lounge does for Golds(rubys)/non-elites as they are aware the PTY flights are under 5 hours. Booking transcon flights in J/F gains access to the OWJ/QFF lounges.
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Technically NONE (PTY under 5 hours therefore class of service rule applies) BUT AA still opens Admirals Club doors to all customers because they dont enforce the long-haul rule>
AA PLATINUMs
Platinums gain access to all AC/Business lounges regardless of routing due to flying to and from PTY. They gain access to First/Flagship lounges when traveling in F 3-class transcon
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J lounge + QF F Lounge LAX>
<Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA) in J = Admirals + LAX oneworld J lounge>
<Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + LAX oneworld J>
AA EXPs
EXPs have access to all lounges at all airports regardless of routing so long as they are traveling to and from PTY on the same itinerary (an international destination neither excluded from AA's list of ineligible regions nor limited by the flight length rule)
<EXPs Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs Non-Transcon F (2-class) + PTY = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in Y = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in J = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
<EXPs on Transcon 3-class (JFK/MIA + PTY) in F = Admirals + Flagship + LAX oneworld J + QF F lounge LAX>
NON-AA ONEWORLD ELITES
All sapphires and emeralds have some form of lounge access on any flight systemwide
<non-AA sapphires on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX>
<non-AA emeralds on ALL AA FLIGHTS = Admirals Club + oneworld J lounge LAX + Flagship Lounge + QF F lounge LAX>
OTHER AIRPORTS
SFO - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
JFK - Admirals Club & Flagship Lounge for EXP/First 3-class/Emerald
MIA - Admiral's Club (Centurion Lounge for a fee), Oneworld Premium Lounge for EXP/First 3-Class/Emerald
PTY - No lounge access (Copa with PP, or for a fee, for 7am or later flights)
YVR - No lounge access (PP for a fee)
DFW - Admiral's Club (with F/C Dining for EXP/Emerald) (Centurion Lounge for a fee)
6. PTY Customs:
Inbound to PTY -
Outbound to MIA -
7. Finding flights: - 12 noon - no lines reported
- 8PM Fri (5/27/16) - ~10 min line
Outbound to MIA -
- 4:40am - no lines reported
NOTE: LAX-JFK NO LONGER VALID FOR LOWEST FARES (effective OCT 2016)
If you want the transcon bonus, enter the search with a connection in JFK. (e.g. LAX-JFK,JFK-MIA,MIA-PTY,PTY-JFK,JFK-SFO.) You can play around from there to get the best deal. Some of the better deals do not start and end in the same city (e.g. start in LAX, end in SFO may be cheaper than start/end in LAX).
Also, it's possible on the outbound portion to time it so you have no more than a 60-minute layover at JFK or MIA (though note that some of these flights aren't available on weekends). While yes, JFK is notorious for delays, this rarely applies for inbound red-eye flights. Also, note that AA 28 below is sometimes "hidden" if you're looking on Google Flights inside a much more expensive trip; that does not necessarily mean, however, that you can't get it for one of the trips under $1,000 (in other words, try it out to see).
NOTE: LAX-JFK NO LONGER VALID FOR LOWEST FARES (effective OCT 2016)
Below is the shortest-possible outbound itinerary that has the LAX-JFK transcon on AA's A321T with flat-bed seats:
LAX-JFK on AA 28
10:45pm - 7:22am
JFK-MIA on AA 200
8:15am - 11:24am
(Note: AA has now switched all of the metal it used on this leg - on all JFK-MIA nonstops - to 757s instead of the 767s with international-style F & J seating.)***767 and 772 are back. Flight 200 is a 772**
MIA-PTY on AA 4434
12:33pm - 2:48pm
(Note: Even more distressingly, AA switched from using a 737 on this leg to an RJ, presumably because summer is off-peak season in Central America. The 6:05pm flight still uses a 737 if a full-size aircraft is a must.)
AA: LAX-JFK-MIA-PTY RT $702 in A/J 18.9K EQMs
Oct 13, 2016, 8:12 pm
#1921
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Australia / USA
Programs: AS 100K, UA 1K, VA Platinum, HA Platinum, QF Gold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Gold
Posts: 414
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....emium-economy/
Note that from early 2017 onwards fare class changes from F -> J, A -> D, P -> I on domestic itineraries. This has a huge effect on point-based fliers on BA, CX, QF, QR.
Note that from early 2017 onwards fare class changes from F -> J, A -> D, P -> I on domestic itineraries. This has a huge effect on point-based fliers on BA, CX, QF, QR.
Why do good things always comes to an end?!!
Oct 13, 2016, 8:32 pm
#1922
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX, LGB, SNA
Programs: AA EXP OWE, DL DM ST+, AS MVPG, UA, BA, WN CP, Hyatt E, Ritz Plat, HH GM
Posts: 3,185
http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....emium-economy/
Note that from early 2017 onwards fare class changes from F -> J, A -> D, P -> I on domestic itineraries. This has a huge effect on point-based fliers on BA, CX, QF, QR.
Note that from early 2017 onwards fare class changes from F -> J, A -> D, P -> I on domestic itineraries. This has a huge effect on point-based fliers on BA, CX, QF, QR.
Oct 13, 2016, 9:39 pm
#1923
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west coast best coast
Programs: TINDER GOLD, STARBUCKS GOLD, COSTCO EXECUTIVE!!
Posts: 3,989
Oct 14, 2016, 9:49 am
#1924
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: SEA
Programs: AA LT PLT; HH Diamond; AS 75K
Posts: 2,879
I've had many (probably 100) red eye domestic to later than 6am international flight where I've always been given lounge access at the first point of check-in. I'm always given lounge access on arriving next day from an international to domestic connection. I think they key is to have an international segment that does not include a stop over. The 6am rule is not referenced for elite members but for J/F.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...nge-access.jsp
oneworld Emerald and Sapphire customers
If you’re departing on a flight marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier, regardless of your class of service, you may enjoy:
First and Business Class customers
Lounge access is not available if you’re traveling on American Airlines solely within the United States or between the United States and the Caribbean, Canada, or Mexico (except Mexico City).
Your access is determined by showing your boarding pass departing on an international flight marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier that is five hours or longer, or connecting to one on the same day or before 6 a.m. the following day. You may enjoy access to:
Telling elite AA members they don't have access when in practice and AA rules they do is misleading and inaccurate.
Wanderlust is taking rules from a OW site and applying them inappropriately to a AA EXP accessing an AA lounge. AA rules apply in this case and AA EXP and Plt on a qualifying international flight have access. 5 hours flights and 6am departure have no applicability here.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...nge-access.jsp
oneworld Emerald and Sapphire customers
If you’re departing on a flight marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier, regardless of your class of service, you may enjoy:
First and Business Class customers
Lounge access is not available if you’re traveling on American Airlines solely within the United States or between the United States and the Caribbean, Canada, or Mexico (except Mexico City).
Your access is determined by showing your boarding pass departing on an international flight marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier that is five hours or longer, or connecting to one on the same day or before 6 a.m. the following day. You may enjoy access to:
Telling elite AA members they don't have access when in practice and AA rules they do is misleading and inaccurate.
Wanderlust is taking rules from a OW site and applying them inappropriately to a AA EXP accessing an AA lounge. AA rules apply in this case and AA EXP and Plt on a qualifying international flight have access. 5 hours flights and 6am departure have no applicability here.
Last edited by tkelvin69; Oct 14, 2016 at 10:00 am
Oct 14, 2016, 12:58 pm
#1926
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Loud, dark, warm, lots of ethernet cables, and in some rack space.
Programs: AA:EXP
Posts: 369
I've had many (probably 100) red eye domestic to later than 6am international flight where I've always been given lounge access at the first point of check-in. I'm always given lounge access on arriving next day from an international to domestic connection. I think they key is to have an international segment that does not include a stop over. The 6am rule is not referenced for elite members but for J/F.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...nge-access.jsp
oneworld Emerald and Sapphire customers
If you’re departing on a flight marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier, regardless of your class of service, you may enjoy:
First and Business Class customers
Lounge access is not available if you’re traveling on American Airlines solely within the United States or between the United States and the Caribbean, Canada, or Mexico (except Mexico City).
Your access is determined by showing your boarding pass departing on an international flight marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier that is five hours or longer, or connecting to one on the same day or before 6 a.m. the following day. You may enjoy access to:
Telling elite AA members they don't have access when in practice and AA rules they do is misleading and inaccurate.
Wanderlust is taking rules from a OW site and applying them inappropriately to a AA EXP accessing an AA lounge. AA rules apply in this case and AA EXP and Plt on a qualifying international flight have access. 5 hours flights and 6am departure have no applicability here.
https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...nge-access.jsp
oneworld Emerald and Sapphire customers
If you’re departing on a flight marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier, regardless of your class of service, you may enjoy:
First and Business Class customers
Lounge access is not available if you’re traveling on American Airlines solely within the United States or between the United States and the Caribbean, Canada, or Mexico (except Mexico City).
Your access is determined by showing your boarding pass departing on an international flight marketed and operated by a oneworld carrier that is five hours or longer, or connecting to one on the same day or before 6 a.m. the following day. You may enjoy access to:
Telling elite AA members they don't have access when in practice and AA rules they do is misleading and inaccurate.
Wanderlust is taking rules from a OW site and applying them inappropriately to a AA EXP accessing an AA lounge. AA rules apply in this case and AA EXP and Plt on a qualifying international flight have access. 5 hours flights and 6am departure have no applicability here.
Oct 14, 2016, 4:22 pm
#1928
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
So many wrong/incorrect statements lately... So many unrelated issues being brought up... You would think this was the federal election!
Remember the good old days when this was a nice happy thread about mileage running in First/Business to PTY?
Remember the good old days when this was a nice happy thread about mileage running in First/Business to PTY?
Oct 14, 2016, 4:47 pm
#1929
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: LAX, LGB, SNA
Programs: AA EXP OWE, DL DM ST+, AS MVPG, UA, BA, WN CP, Hyatt E, Ritz Plat, HH GM
Posts: 3,185
Is that before or after the time of 400$ fares?
Oct 15, 2016, 4:24 pm
#1930
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Loud, dark, warm, lots of ethernet cables, and in some rack space.
Programs: AA:EXP
Posts: 369
Overall decent for the EQMs, achieved EXP status and a bit more. The LAX-DFW flight was flying the newest plane in the fleet, 787 w/ lieflats and premium economy. The MIA-PTY and PTY-MIA flight was weird because I never flew on the same pane, same route, in the same seat, with the same flight attendant before! Next year I'll probably go for Non-AA Emerald status (as planned due to the revenue based program change) while taking up some premium cabin fares and using my AA elite status for first class lounge access.
Oct 15, 2016, 4:53 pm
#1931
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Global
Posts: 5,998
I think people get a little uncomfortable waiting in the airport longer than 40 minutes without a lounge! I just finished my run (following the lounge access rules and not arguing at all) and it was decent, but not the most enjoyable experience.
Overall decent for the EQMs, achieved EXP status and a bit more. The LAX-DFW flight was flying the newest plane in the fleet, 787 w/ lieflats and premium economy. The MIA-PTY and PTY-MIA flight was weird because I never flew on the same pane, same route, in the same seat, with the same flight attendant before! Next year I'll probably go for Non-AA Emerald status (as planned due to the revenue based program change) while taking up some premium cabin fares and using my AA elite status for first class lounge access.
Overall decent for the EQMs, achieved EXP status and a bit more. The LAX-DFW flight was flying the newest plane in the fleet, 787 w/ lieflats and premium economy. The MIA-PTY and PTY-MIA flight was weird because I never flew on the same pane, same route, in the same seat, with the same flight attendant before! Next year I'll probably go for Non-AA Emerald status (as planned due to the revenue based program change) while taking up some premium cabin fares and using my AA elite status for first class lounge access.
Congrats on EXP. On the return, if you were same day to JFK or DFW and your account was updated to EXP, you even had FC dining in DFW or FL in JFK.
Oct 15, 2016, 8:44 pm
#1933
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Australia / USA
Programs: AS 100K, UA 1K, VA Platinum, HA Platinum, QF Gold, HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Gold
Posts: 414
Can anyone offer some advice as to whether I can make a change without paying any fees or fare difference?
Last month, I received notification of my MIA-PTY-MIA flights being retimed.
The MIA-PTY-MIA e-jet flights have 30-45 minute changes to departure times.
AA4434 MIA-PTY 1:16pm - 3:23pm CHANGED TO 12:33pm - 2:50pm
AA4434 PTY-MIA 4:03pm - 8:09pm CHANGED TO 3:30pm - 7:45pm
I know these changes aren't significant, but Im wondering if I can change my flights to the morning turnaround. For some reason, I didn't notice that theres an easy quick turn on the 737s on the same day. I thought it was only the e-jets that turned around quickly.
AA1021 9:48AM - 11:56AM MIA-PTY 738
AA981 12:51PM - 4:57PM PTY-MIA 738
Theres no "I" seats left on the outbound though, but there are 2 available on the return. Theres still plenty of J and D seats.
If I had seen these flights, I would have booked them instead because I would love to be back in MIA in time to enjoy the evening. They very well could have existed at those times, but I do think that maybe the PTY-MIA flight got retimed or something to make it a quick turn like the E75 quick same day turn. Its also an added bonus to be on the 737-800s for hot meals instead of cold meals on the E75s.
Does anyone think I can get an EXP agent to move me to the two earlier fights? I have been able to successfully modify itineraries when I have had aircraft swaps and schedule changes greater than 90 minutes etc. I just dont know if minor changes to the e-jet times open the door for further changes without penalties and fare differences. And I dont have any connecting flights that evening to support my case either. Im overnighting in MIA no matter what.
Any advice would be very much appreciated.
Last month, I received notification of my MIA-PTY-MIA flights being retimed.
The MIA-PTY-MIA e-jet flights have 30-45 minute changes to departure times.
AA4434 MIA-PTY 1:16pm - 3:23pm CHANGED TO 12:33pm - 2:50pm
AA4434 PTY-MIA 4:03pm - 8:09pm CHANGED TO 3:30pm - 7:45pm
I know these changes aren't significant, but Im wondering if I can change my flights to the morning turnaround. For some reason, I didn't notice that theres an easy quick turn on the 737s on the same day. I thought it was only the e-jets that turned around quickly.
AA1021 9:48AM - 11:56AM MIA-PTY 738
AA981 12:51PM - 4:57PM PTY-MIA 738
Theres no "I" seats left on the outbound though, but there are 2 available on the return. Theres still plenty of J and D seats.
If I had seen these flights, I would have booked them instead because I would love to be back in MIA in time to enjoy the evening. They very well could have existed at those times, but I do think that maybe the PTY-MIA flight got retimed or something to make it a quick turn like the E75 quick same day turn. Its also an added bonus to be on the 737-800s for hot meals instead of cold meals on the E75s.
Does anyone think I can get an EXP agent to move me to the two earlier fights? I have been able to successfully modify itineraries when I have had aircraft swaps and schedule changes greater than 90 minutes etc. I just dont know if minor changes to the e-jet times open the door for further changes without penalties and fare differences. And I dont have any connecting flights that evening to support my case either. Im overnighting in MIA no matter what.
Any advice would be very much appreciated.
Oct 15, 2016, 9:06 pm
#1934
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 118
"Mr Shonky - you're an Emerald member, please go up the hall and enter the lounge on the left".
Entered the Halloween-themed lounge, they scanned my LAX-MIA boarding pass and welcomed me. Only here for an hour but will try the small plates (not ever been a fan of their minute steaks here).
TLDR - you can get into the OW F lounge at LAX on the LAX-MIA domestic flight (not flying to PTY until Monday - > 24 hours away).
Oct 15, 2016, 10:20 pm
#1935
Join Date: Apr 2009
Programs: American EXP; British Airways Gold
Posts: 1,896
Currently in the OW F lounge. I went to the OW J lounge and the exact words used were
"Mr Shonky - you're an Emerald member, please go up the hall and enter the lounge on the left".
Entered the Halloween-themed lounge, they scanned my LAX-MIA boarding pass and welcomed me. Only here for an hour but will try the small plates (not ever been a fan of their minute steaks here).
TLDR - you can get into the OW F lounge at LAX on the LAX-MIA domestic flight (not flying to PTY until Monday - > 24 hours away).
"Mr Shonky - you're an Emerald member, please go up the hall and enter the lounge on the left".
Entered the Halloween-themed lounge, they scanned my LAX-MIA boarding pass and welcomed me. Only here for an hour but will try the small plates (not ever been a fan of their minute steaks here).
TLDR - you can get into the OW F lounge at LAX on the LAX-MIA domestic flight (not flying to PTY until Monday - > 24 hours away).