Jan 4, 2014, 10:43 pm

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Fare feels too good to be true? Don't call the airline!
Double-check that the fare is actually in Business or First as some online search engines or OTAs confuse booking classes on some airlines.
Post as much detail as possible about the First/Business fare, including: fare class, fare basis, one-way/round-trip, sales channel, sample dates and total price (including taxes).
When posting fare rules, please enclose them in a [COÐE][/COÐE] block. Note the use of the eth (Ð) instead of a capital D here to prevent the forum software from trying to insert an actual block. Be sure you use the capital D.
Refrain from posting fare requests or engaging in off topic debates such as fare trends, specific aircraft configuration or visa requirements
The deeply discounted international fares discussed here are almost always specific to a certain point of origin, and only very rarely work in reverse (e.g. a SFO-LHR-SFO fare usually won't work LHR-SFO-LHR). Domestic fares more commonly work in reverse.
Please include important information such as operating airline, fare classes, city pairs, etc. in the body of your post rather than the post title field as it is not visible to those reading FT on mobile devices. This is not the "trick it" thread. Please do not speak in code.
Please do not post large images. Not everyone has infinite resolution, and it makes the rest of the thread very difficult to read. If it's not important enough to type in, it's not important enough to be here.
Last but not least: don't call the airline!

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where fares on EI (Aer Lingus) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Aer Lingus does not offer first class. If you see this fare, please ignore it and do not post it here as it is completely unbookable in every sense of the term. The mods are summarily deleting these posts in order to unclutter the thread.

Note: There is a known miscoding on ITA and elsewhere, where Z fares on EY (Etihad) are showing as being in first class. This is not correct, as Z fares are discount business on EY. These fares will not receive chaffeur service. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/etihad-airways-etihad-guest/1622229-removal-chauffeur-service-some-business-class-passengers.html

List of known, active deals:

JNB-DXB-SFO in EK F, $4k-ish one-way
MLE-HKG-US (various) in C, $1400 +/- available only on CX's website.
CMB-MIA, other US cities, for about $4400 in F, round-trip/return

BA AARP $400 discount for J/F bookings is now valid again for booking until 31 Oct 2014 but departure to EOS seems to get the discount. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1435816-ba-fare-discounts-aarp-4.html

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Sep 4, 2014, 1:16 pm

#2536

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

Posts: 2,034

aaaandddd....they're gone! Looks like all the US>MAD/BCN SkyTeam fares were all just pulled.

Sep 4, 2014, 1:17 pm

#2537

MW_W5

Join Date: Jun 2013

Programs: UA Global Services, BA Silver, Emirates Gold, Airfrance Silver, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold

Posts: 23

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkatta

2K fares to Europe from LAX seem to be dead from LAX for October. Luckily I have some Delta tickets on hold from last night.

The excellent Skyteam fares just had their filing updated to add a last date to travel and ticket restriction of 4th September. They're dead.

Great deal though, for those that booked them!

DENLON DL
AMOUNT: USD/ 1047.00
NUC EQUIV: NUC/ 1047.00
FBC: ZB99US
TRVL EFF/DIS: 04SEP1404SEP14
TKT EFF/DIS: 04SEP1404SEP14

Sep 4, 2014, 1:22 pm

#2538

yensmench

Join Date: Aug 2014

Posts: 11

EY: NYC-MEL in F $5706.40

via cheapOair via Google Flights
Sample Nov 18-25

Sep 4, 2014, 1:25 pm

#2539

hirohito888

Join Date: Jul 2005

Location: NYC

Programs: UA-1K MM, AA-Gold, DL-Silver, AS-MVP

Posts: 2,509

Quote:

Originally Posted by EKinBigD

Fare rules suggest it's just a business class fare

Code:

Etihad Airways EY ZXSP7DUS LAX to BOM
MIDWEEK BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL FARES  Z

Sep 4, 2014, 2:24 pm

#2540

skunker

Join Date: May 2006

Location: SAN

Programs: Lots of faux metal

Posts: 6,425

Quote:

Originally Posted by hirohito888

Fare rules suggest it's just a business class fare

Code:

Etihad Airways EY ZXSP7DUS LAX to BOM
MIDWEEK BUSINESS CLASS PROMOTIONAL FARES  Z

Similar issue last week for BKK-MEL and ICN-JNB.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/23418746-post2392.html

Sep 4, 2014, 5:31 pm

#2541

Edgerfly

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Join Date: Jun 2003

Location: SEA, FLL, Martha’s Vineyard

Programs: AS MVPGold75K, Hilton Gold, IHG Platinum, Pan Am million-miler

Posts: 2,019

Quote:

Originally Posted by 18sas

aaaandddd....they're gone! Looks like all the US>MAD/BCN SkyTeam fares were all just pulled.

I knew DL/Skyteam monitors this thread...

Sep 4, 2014, 6:34 pm

#2542

olouie

Join Date: Mar 2007

Posts: 4,974

Quote:

Originally Posted by EKinBigD

Not dirt cheap but cheap F FROM the US:

Outbound flight
Thu, Sep 11
4:40 pm – 7:50 pm+1
Los Angeles – Abu Dhabi · LAX–AUH
Etihad 170 · First Class · Boeing 777
Overnight flight
Often delayed by 30+ min
16h 10m
Layover in Abu Dhabi AUH
2h 25m
10:15 pm+1 – 3:00 am+2
Abu Dhabi – Mumbai · AUH–BOM
Etihad 206 · First Class · Airbus A330
Overnight flight
3h 15m
Return flight
Thu, Oct 9
4:50 am – 6:25 am
Mumbai – Abu Dhabi · BOM–AUH
Etihad 205 · First Class · Airbus A330
Overnight flight
3h 05m
Layover in Abu Dhabi AUH
2h 25m
8:50 am – 2:10 pm
Abu Dhabi – Los Angeles · AUH–LAX
Etihad 171 · First Class · Boeing 777
16h 20m

Price?

Sep 4, 2014, 10:43 pm

#2543

aa213bb

Join Date: May 2012

Location: Here, there … you know how it goes.

Posts: 1,518

Quote:

Originally Posted by olouie

Price?

$3899, though I believe it's Business.

Sep 5, 2014, 12:30 am

#2544

LwoodY2K

Join Date: Jun 2012

Location: SEA

Programs: AS 75K

Posts: 759

Quote:

Originally Posted by aa213bb

$3899, though I believe it's Business.

Z on EY is discounted business but ITA thinks it's first.

Sep 5, 2014, 6:34 am

#2545

The Mileage Millionaire

Formerly known as fsa_ea

Join Date: Dec 2004

Location: Up in the Air

Programs: UA GS/1MM,AS 75k,NK GLD,AA 2MM,DL 2MM,LH FT,AY PLT,IC RA,FMT LT PLT,HYT GLB,HLT DIA,MRT GLD,HRTZ PC

Posts: 2,229

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edgerfly

I knew DL/Skyteam monitors this thread...

Which has nothing to do with the fares being pulled. These weren't mistake fares.

Sep 5, 2014, 9:44 am

#2546

dll

Join Date: Jun 2001

Location: LAX

Programs: AA Gold (prev. Ex Plat for 10 years); DL Plat; UA Gold; Hilton Diamond

Posts: 2,339

DL/KL/AF fares are back as of this morning with a refile. Same as before, I'm seeing - depending on your origin - BCN, HEL, MAD, LHR, PMI, BIO, TLL, MAN between $1700-2500 (latter higher fares due to LHR APD). Other cities may exist.

Sep 5, 2014, 9:59 am

#2547

18sas

Join Date: Jan 2008

Location: KATL

Programs: DL DM/2MM

Posts: 2,034

Quote:

Originally Posted by dll

Yes, I'm going to develop a case of whiplash with all the back-and-forth.

LAX-MAD is $2000ai. BOS-MAD $2200.

Sep 5, 2014, 10:26 am

#2548

jkenn

Join Date: Feb 2003

Location: Calfornia and sometimes GLA

Posts: 371

Quote:

Originally Posted by dll

Thanks for the heads up. Is there a way to build in a layover without calling the airline?

Sep 5, 2014, 10:27 am

#2549

Calchas

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Mar 2013

Location: London

Posts: 17,007

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkenn

Thanks for the heads up. Is there a way to build in a layover without calling the airline?

Use an online travel agent or the multicity tool on DL.com?

If you want a stopover though they might not be permitted.

Sep 5, 2014, 10:36 am

#2550

dll

Join Date: Jun 2001

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Posts: 2,339

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkenn

Thanks for the heads up. Is there a way to build in a layover without calling the airline?

It would appear that stopovers are permitted based on the fare rules on AF (and I was able to price them out via CDG), but not on AZ or KL. It is possible to build in <24-hour stops though on KL and AZ, and some OTAs will offer them up easily. Could give you a day to play in FCO or AMS. If you purchase on an AF fare that gives you more flexibility.

I don't know for sure about the DL fares since they no longer publish to EF.

Edited to add: DL fares verified and they do not allow stopovers.

Last edited by dll; Sep 5, 2014 at 10:48 am