What would it take for TSA acceptance?
#1
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What would it take for us to accept TSA doing screenings?
1) Secure luggage to lessen the ability of baggage thieves to operate.
2) Drop the ID checks as the airlines already do them.
3) Drop the war on liquids, pastes, and gels.
4) Drop the war on footwear.
5) Fire (encourage them to leave) rude TSOs.
6) Concentrate on core mission requirements.
The above list is mine with no order as to priorities.
This isn't intended to be sarcastic.
1) Secure luggage to lessen the ability of baggage thieves to operate.
2) Drop the ID checks as the airlines already do them.
3) Drop the war on liquids, pastes, and gels.
4) Drop the war on footwear.
5) Fire (encourage them to leave) rude TSOs.
6) Concentrate on core mission requirements.
The above list is mine with no order as to priorities.
This isn't intended to be sarcastic.
#2
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What would it take for us to accept TSA doing screenings?
1) Secure luggage to lessen the ability of baggage thieves to operate.
2) Drop the ID checks as the airlines already do them.
3) Drop the war on liquids, pastes, and gels.
4) Drop the war on footwear.
5) Fire (encourage them to leave) rude TSOs.
6) Concentrate on core mission requirements.
The above list is mine with no order as to priorities.
This isn't intended to be sarcastic.
1) Secure luggage to lessen the ability of baggage thieves to operate.
2) Drop the ID checks as the airlines already do them.
3) Drop the war on liquids, pastes, and gels.
4) Drop the war on footwear.
5) Fire (encourage them to leave) rude TSOs.
6) Concentrate on core mission requirements.
The above list is mine with no order as to priorities.
This isn't intended to be sarcastic.
treat as you want to be treated and if found not doing so, see #5
<rant on>
i'm sorry but i have absolutely zero tolerance for rudeness in the workplace either towards co-workers or customers and just who do you think the customers of the tsa are?. he||, if a bank can can train their staff how to properly (n.b. properly) act with the public do it then sure as sh*t the tsa can do it.
<rant off>
#3




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Everything goalie & AngryMiller said, along w/ensuring everyone entering the 'sterile' area is screened every time. No more 'But they're trusted; they had a background check' BS.
100% cargo screening.
Get rid of the tin badges.
100% cargo screening.
Get rid of the tin badges.
#6
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Yes, that's what it might take for this to happen, but before it happens the proper foundations must be laid. We've witnessed what happens when an organization is slapped together without much forethought.
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Training and standardisation, would be a start.
Ciao,
FH
Ciao,
FH
#8
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You forgot "screen everyone that LEAVES the sterile areas, every time"
#12
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If TSOs and airport personnel are screened going into the sterile area they can not pass contraband to a passenger.
If TSOs and airport personnel are screened leaving the sterile area, thefts would virtually disappear.
Do you want real security or pretend security?
Hopefully that was slam free.
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1. Mandatory passenger presence during physical baggage searches . . . just like every other airport in the world. 
2. Ditch the uniforms and use something similar to USPS employees. Look at the screeners at courthouses and government buildings.
3. It's just a screening agency. Enough with the smoke and mirrors and propaganda. Just do your job: screen.

2. Ditch the uniforms and use something similar to USPS employees. Look at the screeners at courthouses and government buildings.
3. It's just a screening agency. Enough with the smoke and mirrors and propaganda. Just do your job: screen.
Last edited by Wiirachay; May 17, 2009 at 3:41 pm
#14
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If I were in the position that TSA is currently in? I'd *WELCOME* it. They've been caught red-handed FAR too often, and they KNOW it (as an institution). Security screening of TSA personnel might, at this point, be the only thing which would ease the minds of the public about the trustworthiness of the screeners. With respect to security of the personal items the passengers are forced to check, at least.
Baggage handlers, too, of course - screen those two groups alone, and baggage theft would drop to essentially nothing, eliminating one of the major complaints against TSA. Or, to borrow a phrase from the apologists and aim it back at TSA - "If you're innocent, you've got nothing to worry about. What have you got to hide?"
Last edited by erictank; May 16, 2009 at 3:31 am Reason: clarification



