Question on SPOT program
#92
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#93
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If BDO's are so dang good then why do they not spot their fellow co-workers who are dealing drugs or stealing from travelers baggage?
They work next to these people, attend the same briefs and such.
So out of the 10's of millions of people who travel in a years time how many terrorist has any TSA worker identified?
Point to one successful prosecution.
They work next to these people, attend the same briefs and such.
So out of the 10's of millions of people who travel in a years time how many terrorist has any TSA worker identified?
Point to one successful prosecution.
#94
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For the record, actor James Woods has spotted more terrorists than the TSA.
#95
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Actually, terrorists are also amateurs. Yeah, hard to believe, but it's true. The planners, organizers, fund-raisers and bomb-makers are the professionals. But the person who actually carries out the attack is usually an amateur who has received training but has very limited operational experience. And, depending on the motivation, this person may exhibit even more suspicious behavior than even the drug smuggler.
Even so, even professionals have a hard time concealing their behavior. They all have a "tell."
Even so, even professionals have a hard time concealing their behavior. They all have a "tell."
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You were asked a simple question that should be within you knowledge. If you don't know, just say so.
Maybe you have not figured it out, but most people on this forum do not want to get rid of security but simply want to improve it so that our God given rights are protected and the terrorists are stopped.
Questionable systems like the BDO program need to be discussed, but we do need or want a smoke screen introduced into that discussion.
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Bart please stop. Making statements like the one above does nothing to support your side and makes you look like a jerk.
You were asked a simple question that should be within you knowledge. If you don't know, just say so.
Maybe you have not figured it out, but most people on this forum do not want to get rid of security but simply want to improve it so that our God given rights are protected and the terrorists are stopped.
Questionable systems like the BDO program need to be discussed, but we do need or want a smoke screen introduced into that discussion.
You were asked a simple question that should be within you knowledge. If you don't know, just say so.
Maybe you have not figured it out, but most people on this forum do not want to get rid of security but simply want to improve it so that our God given rights are protected and the terrorists are stopped.
Questionable systems like the BDO program need to be discussed, but we do need or want a smoke screen introduced into that discussion.
Bart, that was one of your more inane comments.
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Maybe you have not figured it out, but most people on this forum do not want to get rid of security but simply want to improve it so that our God given rights are protected and the terrorists are stopped.
Questionable systems like the BDO program need to be discussed, but we do need or want a smoke screen introduced into that discussion.
Questionable systems like the BDO program need to be discussed, but we do need or want a smoke screen introduced into that discussion.
#101
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Most people in this forum accept TSA as a workable solution. There are aspects of screening that they find objectionable for legitimate reasons. It's only a handful of the forum members who come in here just to whine or come up with clever little cliche's that feed their unrealistic anti-TSA agenda.
Perhaps we should conduct a poll to see if Bart is correct.
If you bothered to pay attention to the sum of my comments, you would find that I believe the BDO program, effective as it is at detecting suspicious behavior, is probably on its way out. It's biggest handicap is what I call the giggle factor. It's very difficult to articulate even though it does work. It simply doesn't play well in a court room.
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Most people in this forum accept TSA as a workable solution. There are aspects of screening that they find objectionable for legitimate reasons. It's only a handful of the forum members who come in here just to whine or come up with clever little cliche's that feed their unrealistic anti-TSA agenda.
If you bothered to pay attention to the sum of my comments, you would find that I believe the BDO program, effective as it is at detecting suspicious behavior, is probably on its way out. It's biggest handicap is what I call the giggle factor. It's very difficult to articulate even though it does work. It simply doesn't play well in a court room.
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Most people in this forum accept TSA as a workable solution. There are aspects of screening that they find objectionable for legitimate reasons. It's only a handful of the forum members who come in here just to whine or come up with clever little cliche's that feed their unrealistic anti-TSA agenda.
If you bothered to pay attention to the sum of my comments, you would find that I believe the BDO program, effective as it is at detecting suspicious behavior, is probably on its way out. It's biggest handicap is what I call the giggle factor. It's very difficult to articulate even though it does work. It simply doesn't play well in a court room.
I think the BDO program should be killed and expanded. Having supposedly special officers to wander the airport hoping to catch a terrorist is silly and ineffective.
On the other hand giving the same basic awareness training to all the TSOs would increase the chances of catching weapons explosive and incendiaries.
#104
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The TSOs have already been given the basic awareness training. You cant perform BDO functions and run an xray or TDC. That would lead to real trouble. TSOs have enough trouble staying focused on their assigned positions.

