Do you actually go back through? Or do you get your BP at a different gate and/or accidentally/inadvertently scribble some hieroglyphics on your BP?

Just to add to this - I'm at FLL this afternoon in the F gate area. Someone comes up to the GA and asks where to find their gate showing their boarding pass. The bp was for the E gates not located anywhere near where we were, and possibly in another terminal entirely.

People can and Do often lose BPs once they have entered security. In ,I would be a rich man if I had a nickle every time I found a boarding pass laying around inside security.


edit: Oh, screener had made notations on the eticket. CLE requires you to have a boarding pass.. E-ticket will yet you sent back to the ticket counter. Either the screener wasn't very careful checking the ticket, or didn't feel like making the passenger go back and let the person though anyways.

is this SOP or just your own practice? this could be useful, if this is the case

Only a Delta (or AA and UA) agent would be stupid enough to make someone go back out through security to re-clear again - the customers should have called a supervisor.

I know most of the DL agents at FLL - I wonder which numnut decided this would add to security.

Well I have never gotten through without a boarding pass, but I have had to get a reprint. I have lost a few (or had them picked up with the trash in the DL Crown Room or...)

So they didn't have a boarding pass and the TSA didn't notice. Did you think that idiotic screening was DOING ANYTHING besides harrassing you????

This is SOP. They have no way of knowing if it's been used etc....

Who cares if it's used? It has nothing to do with security. If the BP is used, that is between the passenger and the airline.

The TSA goof ball actually scribbled on the Kettles e tickets. When they showed her that is what finally convinced the gate agent that in fact they had not been given boarding passes.

And by the way FLL was the originating flight for this pair.

Sam

there is a situation where you can be inside the secure area without a bp (as it has happened to me) and that is with a gate pass as the entire gate pass (at least at sfo) is retained by the tso checking bp's and i/d's.

with that scenario, you now have a person inside the secure area with no documentary proof that they are allowed to be there.

scenario:

i go thru security with a gate pass
said pass is retained by the tso at the checkpoint
i'm now inside the secure area
i'm subsequently questioned by a bdo or leo and asked to show my bp
i don't have one
please come with me

another part of the inefficiency*

*not the people but the system as that's what needs to be fixed to run the way it should in order to effectively do its job

This is my understanding of the rules at my airport. We allow pax in on a boarding pass dated for that day. Doesn't matter if my airport is the originating airport, or the destination, or not noted on the BP at all. Some flights will connect or layover in my airport but it is not listed on the BP anywhere. Don't care if they are "used" or not. Some people will fly in, collect their baggage and then come back thru security to eat.

Moron Delta agent. The only reason for sending them back would be to make the GA's life easier if there were an SSSS.... otherwise, no good reason at all.

Doesn't work at most other airports. I endured an extra 7 minute delay in line one day at SAT because the ID checker couldn't figure out a code-share boarding pass (ATA BP, WN flight - he kept insisting to the pax that ATA only flew charters from another terminal, and therefore the pax was not allowed through. They finally had to get a WN agent to the line, but they refused to let the line move until the WN agent showed up.)

I occasionally connect from Airtran to Delta in ATL. Airtran can't print my DL BP (no surprise) so often I get to ATL with no BP for my onward flight ( DL"s OLCI has issues with inbounds from Airtran). DL did not have any checkin kiosks until recently so I'd have to find a person to check me in. They'd ask how I got there w/o a BP and I'd just say I arrived on another carrier. I just had to show ID and I got my ticket.

It is possible to require an onward BP and not have an onward BP.

Boarding pass dated same day doesn't necessarily help. The flight to the airport may have departed the previous day. tht had just this issue last year when we did LHR-AKL via HKG. HKG not on the BP anywhere and the date on the BP was the date departed LHR, which is the day before departing HKG. Thus to clear security at HKG we needed a transit card as "proof" we were right to be flying HKG-AKL that day and not the prior day per the BP (as it appeared). tht didn't pick up the transit card and thus got denied at security.

Wow, what a moron at DL.

TSA had clearly already screened the pax.

If the DL GA was really so concerned someone had gotten by security without being screened, why not institute a terminal dump?

FWIW, I have gotten a BP post-security many times. Either using a DM card or when connecting and needing the connecting BP for whatever reason.


DL agent should have his or her pay docked by the amount of wasted taxpayer $$ to do the rescreening, plus the time of the pax so sent back for useless reasons.


I've had to argue that point with more than one TSO, unfortunately. Most recently, at ACV, I was standing by for an earlier flight, and the TSO not only didn't want to accept my current BP (for a flight 5 hours in the future) but also didn't want to accept the DM card (because I wasn't "on the flight" yet--what, did he expect the GA to page me or something?) I know ACV may be a special case as it's a small airport (1 gate) and there's not much to do post-security, but:

At TPA, I stood by for a flight 8 hours earlier than my booked flight. The TSO didn't want to let me through on the BP--"It's too early for that flight." Didn't want to take the DM card--"This isn't a BP and I don't see the date." I kept pointing to the date on the DM card and indicated that flight was scheduled to depart in less than an hour, so I needed to be at the gate ASAP.

Idjits.