I've had it with TSA
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I've had it with TSA
I'm at LAX, having cleared security at UA's terminal (security is mid-way between T6 and T7). As happens from time to time, the x-ray scanner person called for an ETD on my computer bag (lots of wires and stuff). I had to ask the TSO who performed the inspection twice to change her gloves before putting her hands in the bag that contains, among other things, my medication. After the second time, she glares daggers at me, heaves her shoulders and says, "Oh, gosh," in this incredibly irritated tone. I just say, "thank you." When she finishes the inspection, she says nothing, turns on her heels and stalks away. I go over to the supervisor's desk and ask for a complaint form. I'm handed one of those little cards with the TSA website. I told him, "I'd like to have a complaint form. You're supposed to have them at the checkpoint." He says, "I've never been aware of any complaint forms at the checkpoint." I looked at him and said, "You're procedures provide that complaint forms are available at each checkpoint. Are you telling me you don't have any?" He said, "I'm just saying I've never heard of any complaint forms -- everything is on the internet." One of his subordinates said, "That's right -- they've changed it." I said, "No, they haven't. It's unacceptable that you can't even follow your own SOP."
I know that someone has previously posted a URL where I can get a complaint form. I also want to follow up on this. I've had it with being treated rudely and disrespectfully by uneducated fools who can't even follow their own rules.
I know that someone has previously posted a URL where I can get a complaint form. I also want to follow up on this. I've had it with being treated rudely and disrespectfully by uneducated fools who can't even follow their own rules.
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I'm at LAX, having cleared security at UA's terminal (security is mid-way between T6 and T7). As happens from time to time, the x-ray scanner person called for an ETD on my computer bag (lots of wires and stuff). I had to ask the TSO who performed the inspection twice to change her gloves before putting her hands in the bag that contains, among other things, my medication. After the second time, she glares daggers at me, heaves her shoulders and says, "Oh, gosh," in this incredibly irritated tone. I just say, "thank you." When she finishes the inspection, she says nothing, turns on her heels and stalks away. I go over to the supervisor's desk and ask for a complaint form. I'm handed one of those little cards with the TSA website. I told him, "I'd like to have a complaint form. You're supposed to have them at the checkpoint." He says, "I've never been aware of any complaint forms at the checkpoint." I looked at him and said, "You're procedures provide that complaint forms are available at each checkpoint. Are you telling me you don't have any?" He said, "I'm just saying I've never heard of any complaint forms -- everything is on the internet." One of his subordinates said, "That's right -- they've changed it." I said, "No, they haven't. It's unacceptable that you can't even follow your own SOP."
I know that someone has previously posted a URL where I can get a complaint form. I also want to follow up on this. I've had it with being treated rudely and disrespectfully by uneducated fools who can't even follow their own rules.
I know that someone has previously posted a URL where I can get a complaint form. I also want to follow up on this. I've had it with being treated rudely and disrespectfully by uneducated fools who can't even follow their own rules.
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Regarding TSA, I'm right behind Spiff with total disgust with everything to do with this agency. However, for the twelve times thru the gates this year, I think I've stood in line a total of fifteen minutes and have never had a hassle.
Have never spoken a word. I acknowledge any words by them with a blank stare.
Have never spoken a word. I acknowledge any words by them with a blank stare.
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Here you go (& thanks to the FTers who posted them):
http://home.comcast.net/~mdtraveler/...iment-Form.pdf
http://www.millerworks.net/TSA-Compl...iment-Form.pdf
http://home.comcast.net/~mdtraveler/...iment-Form.pdf
http://www.millerworks.net/TSA-Compl...iment-Form.pdf
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An attitude of one person over a glove change and the lack of a complaint form sets you off? Are you serious?
Besides, even by your own words, it kind of comes off as you being the aggressor and/or fool in the complaint form issue thing. Getting in a lather over a piece of paper just isn't worth it.
What's the big deal about the complaint form anyway? Doesn't a diplomatic typing of one letter and printing it multiple times, and then sending them to the appropriate parties seem a little more productive?
All that said, yeah, the screener should have changed the gloves at first request. But if this entire situation bothers you to the degree you portray yourself, you might burst a blood vessel for something truly egregious.
Besides, even by your own words, it kind of comes off as you being the aggressor and/or fool in the complaint form issue thing. Getting in a lather over a piece of paper just isn't worth it.
What's the big deal about the complaint form anyway? Doesn't a diplomatic typing of one letter and printing it multiple times, and then sending them to the appropriate parties seem a little more productive?
All that said, yeah, the screener should have changed the gloves at first request. But if this entire situation bothers you to the degree you portray yourself, you might burst a blood vessel for something truly egregious.
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Perhaps if people actually complained every time a TSO was rude to them, the magnitude of complaints might cause someone, somewhere, to notice there's a problem . . . .
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Besides, even by your own words, it kind of comes off as you being the aggressor and/or fool in the complaint form issue thing. Getting in a lather over a piece of paper just isn't worth it.
What's the big deal about the complaint form anyway?
1. TSA is required to provide them at each checkpoint.
2. That is the designated vehicle for reporting a complaint.
Doesn't a diplomatic typing of one letter and printing it multiple times, and then sending them to the appropriate parties seem a little more productive?
All that said, yeah, the screener should have changed the gloves at first request. But if this entire situation bothers you to the degree you portray yourself, you might burst a blood vessel for something truly egregious.
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I'm at LAX, having cleared security at UA's terminal (security is mid-way between T6 and T7). As happens from time to time, the x-ray scanner person called for an ETD on my computer bag (lots of wires and stuff). I had to ask the TSO who performed the inspection twice to change her gloves before putting her hands in the bag that contains, among other things, my medication. After the second time, she glares daggers at me, heaves her shoulders and says, "Oh, gosh," in this incredibly irritated tone. I just say, "thank you." When she finishes the inspection, she says nothing, turns on her heels and stalks away. I go over to the supervisor's desk and ask for a complaint form. I'm handed one of those little cards with the TSA website. I told him, "I'd like to have a complaint form. You're supposed to have them at the checkpoint." He says, "I've never been aware of any complaint forms at the checkpoint." I looked at him and said, "You're procedures provide that complaint forms are available at each checkpoint. Are you telling me you don't have any?" He said, "I'm just saying I've never heard of any complaint forms -- everything is on the internet." One of his subordinates said, "That's right -- they've changed it." I said, "No, they haven't. It's unacceptable that you can't even follow your own SOP."
I know that someone has previously posted a URL where I can get a complaint form. I also want to follow up on this. I've had it with being treated rudely and disrespectfully by uneducated fools who can't even follow their own rules.
I know that someone has previously posted a URL where I can get a complaint form. I also want to follow up on this. I've had it with being treated rudely and disrespectfully by uneducated fools who can't even follow their own rules.
Mike
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Go ahead and believe what you want but i sure as heck dont want to deal with the following MRSA (Super staph infection - resistant many antibiotics), VRE (same as VRE just resistant to a different set of antibiotics), MRDO (combo of MRSA & VRE), as well as fecal coliform, and other flora from bodily fluids, and thats just the short list.
Shall i go on?
Last edited by Scubatooth; Jun 15, 2008 at 12:00 pm
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No, you see, you're missing the point. They consistently change SOP at the WTMD to make sure that they fool the terrorists. You see, by not having forms handy, they have both another chance to interact with and SPOT the terrorists as well as preventing those terrorists from filing complaints.
Mike
Mike
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Follow-up: Email from TSA
I received this email today:
Why am I unconvinced?
Thank you for your email message. We are sorry you were unhappy with your recent travel experience.
Because your complaint is regarding screening at LAX, we have forwarded a copy of your email to the Customer Service Manager at that airport. The Customer Service Manager is responsible for ensuring that the screener workforce adheres to TSA principles for professional processing.
We monitor the number and nature of complaints we receive to track trends and spot areas of concern that may require special attention. This ongoing process will enable us to ensure prompt, corrective action whenever we determine that security-screening policies need modification or specific employees or screener teams are the subjects of repeated complaints.
Again, the TSA offers sincere apologies for the discomfort you experienced while traveling and encourage you to check the latest information at www.tsa.gov (http://www.tsa.gov/).
TSA Contact Center
Because your complaint is regarding screening at LAX, we have forwarded a copy of your email to the Customer Service Manager at that airport. The Customer Service Manager is responsible for ensuring that the screener workforce adheres to TSA principles for professional processing.
We monitor the number and nature of complaints we receive to track trends and spot areas of concern that may require special attention. This ongoing process will enable us to ensure prompt, corrective action whenever we determine that security-screening policies need modification or specific employees or screener teams are the subjects of repeated complaints.
Again, the TSA offers sincere apologies for the discomfort you experienced while traveling and encourage you to check the latest information at www.tsa.gov (http://www.tsa.gov/).
TSA Contact Center

