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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 3:26 pm
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Originally Posted by EngIceDave
If you are being consistently harassed by TSA, maybe you need to look inward rather than outward when seeking a reason
With respect, you ought to also. You might appear more docile and compliant than the average traveler.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 3:28 pm
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Originally Posted by PoliceStateSurvivor
She was grabbed, shoved, and groped. The wand was forcefully pressed against her body. I think the word applies.
If that was the case then you're correct.

The word "brutalized" was just rather unspecific, that's all.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 3:43 pm
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It's not a res agent, it's security.
Actually it's neither, but the fact that you think this bunch of shouting overbearing amateurs is "security" is certainly a frightening thought.

If it were truly security, we'd let the military handle it and be done with this once and for all.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 3:58 pm
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Originally Posted by law dawg
If that was the case then you're correct.

The word "brutalized" was just rather unspecific, that's all.
As you can probably guess, I did not enjoy writing about it. This is why I tried to "get away with" a non-specific word.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 4:17 pm
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The military?

That's another standard comment I don't get... the first being all the complaints about the TSA.. (Not saying the complaints aren't valid.. just that I have never had anything other than neutral or good interactions with them - and I am a foreigner AND I travel with "restricted goods" which automatically increases the level of "interaction"... YMM, as always, V..) we can only comment in relation to our own experiences.. and I have no grounds for complaint.

I served as an officer in our military for 14 years... and I will never understand the suggestions that "the military" should be brought in for all sorts of tasks (when folks aren't happy with those currently entrusted with them) for which the "military" have NO experience, NO training, no manpower AND quite possibly, no legal/constitutional ability to undertake.

Just WHICH branch of the service do you see taking on the role?

(The Marines would be interesting.... "Why haven't you got your shoes off yet! On the floor maggot!!! Gimme 20!")

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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 4:29 pm
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Originally Posted by PoliceStateSurvivor
I believe retaliation for complaints is, indeed, institutionalized behavior at those airports where power-trippers are unchecked.
Beyond dispute.

Some people are no doubt less inclined to "complain" than others, however.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 4:56 pm
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What do you think? Thoughts? Comments? Concerns?
I'm always a little skeptical of those who post solely in this forum. 100% TS&S with no posts elsewhere.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 5:23 pm
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I'm always a little skeptical of those who post solely in this forum. 100% TS&S with no posts elsewhere.
So the OP has been through "thousands" of checkpoints and isn't interested in FF programs, elite status, etc. Maybe he just loves a good lineup?
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 5:48 pm
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So the OP has been through "thousands" of checkpoints and isn't interested in FF programs, elite status, etc. Maybe he just loves a good lineup?
It's an unfortunate commentary on the state of the airline industry that the OP has been thru "thousands" of checkpoints yet is still in the right seat, awaiting that upgrade to the left seat. I'm guessing USAir native, as there are many pilots there who will retire out of the right seat.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 6:54 pm
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Originally Posted by rightseat
Exactly. Yea, the system is far from perfect.

Why not help your own cause and do as told.
Because I'm being told to do something that doesn't make me any safer and wastes lots of time/money.
...It's not a res agent, it's security.
It's not security -- it's the feeling of security. There's a big difference.

Why don't you start by explaining the science behind why can't we bring water through the checkpoint? The whole mixing bombs in the airplane bathroom thing has long since been debunked.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 7:03 pm
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Why get yourself all worked up about it?
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 8:04 pm
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Because I'm being told to do something that doesn't make me any safer and wastes lots of time/money.It's not security -- it's the feeling of security. There's a big difference.

Why don't you start by explaining the science behind why can't we bring water through the checkpoint? The whole mixing bombs in the airplane bathroom thing has long since been debunked.
Where did I say anything about the liquid ban?

How do you know it's not security?

Do you know it hasn't prevented an attack or hijacking? Nobody does.

Until then, get in line and do as told.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 8:05 pm
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It's an unfortunate commentary on the state of the airline industry that the OP has been thru "thousands" of checkpoints yet is still in the right seat, awaiting that upgrade to the left seat. I'm guessing USAir native, as there are many pilots there who will retire out of the right seat.
Please leave personal attacks and my profession out of this. I am far from a scab.

Thanks.
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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by rightseat
Where did I say anything about the liquid ban?

How do you know it's not security?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/10/18/airport.screeners/


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Old Nov 9, 2007 | 8:24 pm
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Originally Posted by rightseat
Where did I say anything about the liquid ban?

How do you know it's not security?
How do you know that it is? There is no scientific evidence that what is purported to have been the plot was actually capable of being pulled off. In fact, we have considerable evidence that it was not a credible threat. (See this as well)
Do you know it hasn't prevented an attack or hijacking? Nobody does.

Until then, get in line and do as told.
Yawn!

Believe me -- if the TSA finds so much as a suspicious block of cheese there is a press release or a news conference. Witness this and this The TSA has prevented just as many hijackings as my pet rock. Other FTers have pet rocks too. They seem to be working with equal effectiveness.



As far as your post above concerning harassment, you have it wrong. I've been through checkpoints many times as well. I know the drill. But, I also know that The TSA quite often harasses passengers. I have been harassed several times. Several times I was told that the TSA rules were something other than what I knew the rules to be. I spoke up to prevent my possessions from being taken away from me. The new rule was one that the screener had made up. It was a lie. The supervisor backed up the screener. This happens all the time. Peruse this forum for countless examples.

The US Congress created the TSA so we could have a single standard screening experience. That has not happened. Until it does happen people like me will continue to complain. Why should we silently stand by and have our time, our money, and our civil liberties abused by this power-tripping bureaucracy?
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