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Originally Posted by law dawg
(Post 8287971)
On the other hand, it does give the TSO another opportunity to speak and interact with the passenger. Look for the wielder, not the weapon.
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Originally Posted by DL4EVR
(Post 8282460)
I can't help but say I feel a little bad for the contracted employees who are going to be out of work (the ones at PBI really are a pleasure). But I'm probably more sad that this is going to mean more $$ going to the TSA. :td:
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Originally Posted by xyzzy
(Post 8288398)
How many of the ID checkers actually utter more than a grunt (if that) before handing the ID/boarding pass back? That's right, just about zero. Since you admit that this check has nothing to do with security why are we doing it? :confused:
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
(Post 8288893)
Then I had the guy who almost didn't let me to the checkpoint at BWI because I didn't know the gate I was going to beforehand (online check-in, not on boarding pass).
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Originally Posted by vassilipan
(Post 8289050)
A very serious-looking ticket agent once told me the gates are not on OLCI BP's for "security purposes," although I could go the the airline's web site on my PDA and find the gate.
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Originally Posted by xyzzy
(Post 8289087)
"In this post-9/11 era..." do these people actually believe the crap they spew? :confused:
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You all have it wrong. The purpose of checking I.D. is to attempt to keep those people out of the secured area that dont have a legitimate reason to be there.
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Right.
So I buy a ticket in the name of Joe Q. Sixpack, tell the burger flipper I have no ID, and after a swab of my smelly tennies Joe Sixpack is wandering around the concourse. |
Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 8289211)
You all have it wrong. The purpose of checking I.D. is to attempt to keep those people out of the secured area that dont have a legitimate reason to be there.
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Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 8289211)
You all have it wrong. The purpose of checking I.D. is to attempt to keep those people out of the secured area that dont have a legitimate reason to be there.
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Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 8289211)
You all have it wrong. The purpose of checking I.D. is to attempt to keep those people out of the secured area that dont have a legitimate reason to be there.
Let's look at the statement of "legitimate reasons" to be there. I suppose you mean people who aren't traveling that day, like friends & family of people who are, or those who are just bored or who want to go airside for some innocent reason, because you sure don't mean would-be bad guys (to be addressed momentarily). I don't see why the TSA needs "document experts" for this purpose, and why the contract workers weren't good enough to keep out the riff-raff. Seems a total waste of my tax dollars to me. Then, we're down to those who are trying to be illegitimately airside for nefarious purposes, like would-be terrorists. We've already addressed how ridiculous the notion that any sort of "document experts" would actually keep those intent on passing from doing so, so clearly they're ineffective at that, and as before, a total waste of tax dollars. I can't see why the TSA would care about airline revenue protection (which is the only real reason anyone checks IDs and BPs, by the way), so it can't be that. It must just be their stupidity (or greed, since we're talking the expenditure of $$ and the requests for more in the annual budgets) at thinking they can do something legitimately in the name of security by looking at IDs. |
Originally Posted by exerda
(Post 8289652)
I can't see why the TSA would care about airline revenue protection (which is the only real reason anyone checks IDs and BPs, by the way), so it can't be that. It must just be their stupidity (or greed, since we're talking the expenditure of $$ and the requests for more in the annual budgets) at thinking they can do something legitimately in the name of security by looking at IDs.
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Originally Posted by Wally Bird
(Post 8289770)
Saving "face". Somebody at DHS decided, in the immediate post-9/11 meltdown, that ID was security. Since the DHS/TSA has never done a volte-face on anything of substance, they will never admit this was a bonehead move; assuming they even recognize that fact, which I seriously doubt.
But that said... Let's think in terms of the dude/dudes who came up with ID=Security. As we all know, most of the US doesn't travel often. In fact the majority of that group travels maybe once a year, to a wedding or some form of family gathering. The average John Q. Iaintneverleftmytown sees the footage of 9/11, the dead soldiers in Iraq, a flip/flopping Kerry and a "stand by my BS" Bush and they really think that they are in danger. Yea right you wanna say, but unfortunately they do think that way. So to ease their pain and suffering, the DHS brains came up with the great scheme that is now known as TSA. Mr. and Mrs. Iaintneverleftmytown drag their 2.5 kids and their hord of luggage through TSA checkpoint, carrying their ID and their Priceline bought ticket, feeling good about the savings, the chance to see their folks and above all their "tax dollars at work" in the form of an underpaid, overworked and underschooled TSA agent. So, as a facade, this works great. Kippy the Hound comes on TV and says what a great job his agents are doing, some other elected official also praises the safety our country is now enjoying, and Bush does his "we're safer now but there's much more to be done" routine. Ummm did I leave anything out? |
Originally Posted by DEVIS
(Post 8289949)
Ummm did I leave anything out?
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Originally Posted by xyzzy
(Post 8289994)
Yes, "...and then I woke up!" -- because unfortunately this is neither a movie nor a bad dream :eek:
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