CLEAR coming to ATL
#16
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Delta Air Lines and the SkyMiles frequent flier program have little to do with this topic, which is why the new home for this thread is the Travel Safety/Security forum.
Regards,
Canarsie
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Regards,
Canarsie
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#19
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now, a private agency in conjunction with the federal gub'ment runs clear, right? how well do you trust the gub'ment with your personal data let alone a private/quasi-gub'ment agency? just think of the lawrence/livermore labs...they have had more data security breaches (and most due to stupidy such as lost/stolen laptops) than carter has pills-but what's a bigger joke is that they keep getting their gov't contract by having the winning bid . i can't wait for there to be either a problem with clear's data being lost, stolen or otherwise compromised or even better, someone using i/d theft gets on clear-or better yet, someone on the nfl gets on it. any guesses as to what happens then? wait for it.....wait for it.....wait for it.......absolutely nothing other than clear will offer you a free 1 year subscription to a credit monitoring service (and folks, they are useless as you know what on a bull) .
#20
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The company that runs a registered traveler program at nine airports across the nation will propose a Hartsfield-Jackson lane with special shoe-scanning equipment that allows travelers to keep their shoes on. Steven Brill, CEO of Verified Identity Pass Inc., said his company's CLEAR program is also testing equipment that will let passengers retain their coats — equipment he hopes to have in place by Labor Day.
#22
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Spiff, I don't think that it is metal in the shoes that airline pax need to be concerned about, but explosives.
As for this program, here are my thoughts: If someone were to design a program that worked at most of the major airports in the country, a dedicated frequent traveler security program, then I'd vote for that. If you do not want anyone keeping track of where and when you fly, then opt out of the program. Of course, there already is a program that keeps track of where and when I fly: Delta SkyMiles!
As for this program, here are my thoughts: If someone were to design a program that worked at most of the major airports in the country, a dedicated frequent traveler security program, then I'd vote for that. If you do not want anyone keeping track of where and when you fly, then opt out of the program. Of course, there already is a program that keeps track of where and when I fly: Delta SkyMiles!
#23
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The company that runs a registered traveler program at nine airports across the nation will propose a Hartsfield-Jackson lane with special shoe-scanning equipment that allows travelers to keep their shoes on. Steven Brill, CEO of Verified Identity Pass Inc., said his company's CLEAR program is also testing equipment that will let passengers retain their coats — equipment he hopes to have in place by Labor Day.
#24
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: MCO
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I am a Clear member since I fly out of Orlando 40+ weeks a year. I am banking on the fact that most of the tourists that fly through will not have Clear. I am usually out of security in about 5 minutes. Early Monday a.m. is a nightmare at security. The line snakes back and forth through the main hallway.
The shoe scanner they have lets me keep on my shoes if they don't have metal in them, but that is minor.
But the $ is worth it since I don't have to deal with the funnel of 3-5 ID checkers (some on their cell phones) merging into a very narrow, single lane to then be spread back out into how ever many security lanes they have open. All the while having to watch out for the employee cross traffic that comes flying through the line.
The shoe scanner they have lets me keep on my shoes if they don't have metal in them, but that is minor.
But the $ is worth it since I don't have to deal with the funnel of 3-5 ID checkers (some on their cell phones) merging into a very narrow, single lane to then be spread back out into how ever many security lanes they have open. All the while having to watch out for the employee cross traffic that comes flying through the line.
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#26
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To those of you who are eager to surrender your biometrics to The G and want to line the pockets of people who get rich off of 3,000 dead Americans in the name of saving one or two minutes, you might want to read these stories.
You still can get the complete busineSSSS
There's a good chance you'll still have to remove your shoes, anyway.
Your Clear ID card will be as useful as toilet paper, as you'll still have to show ID.
Enjoy your benefits!
You still can get the complete busineSSSS
There's a good chance you'll still have to remove your shoes, anyway.
Your Clear ID card will be as useful as toilet paper, as you'll still have to show ID.
Enjoy your benefits!
#27
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Read the fine print
When I first read about the MCO Clear program I went to their web site and read the fine print. The one that made the whole thing worthless was something to the effect that the "fast track" benefits like keeping shoes on etc. would be suspended whenever the Threat Level is IIRC Orange or higher. Has this changed? We are on a permanent Orange level or higher for the rest of eternity as HS cries "The sky is falling. Al Kider's Coming!" Don't know if ATL will have different rules, but in MCO the only benefit of buying Clear was replacing a $100 bill in your pocket with a piece of plastic. Other than that, nothing.
#28
Join Date: Jun 2005
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OK, let's see ... we (the geniuses running the US) eliminated private companies from airport screening because they did such a piss-poor job. Now we are going to bring back private screening companies because they can do a better job. Is CLEAR run by the same dude who ran that biggest screening company before they got kicked out?
It all goes in circles.
Edward
It all goes in circles.
Edward
#29
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Sorry to bump a thread almost a year old, but...didn't wanna get b!tched at for not 'do(ing) a search!'
Any news on this front? WILL Clear be adding ATL? Any news on what became of the 'test' or if it ever materialized?
Any news on this front? WILL Clear be adding ATL? Any news on what became of the 'test' or if it ever materialized?