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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 2:40 pm
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solid deoderants - kosher or need to be 3 ounces or less?

I rarely travel with a solid deodorant, but I think I might start. Does this need to be of the < 3 ounces variety or does that just apply to gels and aerosols? The TSA website does not list solid as an option for deodorant.

http://www.tsa.dhs.gov/travelers/air...ted-items.shtm
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 2:41 pm
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Not that anything is consistent from airport to airport, but I've traveled with a full size solid deodorant without issue...
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Buster
Not that anything is consistent from airport to airport, but I've traveled with a full size solid deodorant without issue...
This is true. Thanks for the personal experience. I guess I'll try it.
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Old Apr 13, 2007 | 3:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Buster
Not that anything is consistent from airport to airport, but I've traveled with a full size solid deodorant without issue...
Me, too. I did get lectured at one airport that it "needed to be in the baggie so they didn't have to empty my bag", and lectured at another airport (after following the prior advice) for "it's not a liquid or a gel, so it's not ALLOWED in the baggie".

Gimme a break. It's allowed.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 6:15 am
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Same for me; I've been scolded both ways. In the bag, not in the bag: wrong either way.

And that was at the same checkpoint, same airport.
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 6:47 am
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The only time that I was questioned about this was August 12 last year, and after consultation the full-sized product was allowed through in my carry-on luggage (non-baggie)...
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 7:04 am
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I've seen solid deodorants in the trash cans there.. keep your kipper/freedom
bag handy.. just in case.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 11:16 am
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The TSA confiscated my wife's solid deodorant crystal, which can in no way, shape, or form be construed as a liquid or even a gel. They then denied her claim for reimbursement, stating that the loss has to be the fault of an error on the TSA's part.

I've traveled with the same without problem many times, and through the same airports, so it's clear that the TSA is as consistently inconsistent as usual.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 9:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Mats
Same for me; I've been scolded both ways. In the bag, not in the bag: wrong either way.

And that was at the same checkpoint, same airport.
Clearly what is a liquid, gel or whatever continues to be beyond the comprehension of the frequent flyer who reads the TSA rules and guidelines, and the TSO who is charged with enforcing them.

A simple way of clearing up this confusion would be to make the rules and guidelines more specific. I have in prior posts suggested rewritting the guidelines to define an acceptable limit on viscosity (including standard conditions for temperature, humidity and atmospheric pressure). This would eliminate the subjectivity that appears to be practiced.

Now once some of the TSO's can master this simple concept we can then go to work on the more elusive and much more technically challenging concept of the difference between a liquid ounce and a weight ounce. And yes Virginia, "ml" in 100 ml does stand for something!
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:04 pm
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Originally Posted by sailman
Clearly what is a liquid, gel or whatever continues to be beyond the comprehension of the frequent flyer who reads the TSA rules and guidelines, and the TSO who is charged with enforcing them.

A simple way of clearing up this confusion would be to make the rules and guidelines more specific. I have in prior posts suggested rewritting the guidelines to define an acceptable limit on viscosity (including standard conditions for temperature, humidity and atmospheric pressure). This would eliminate the subjectivity that appears to be practiced.

Now once some of the TSO's can master this simple concept we can then go to work on the more elusive and much more technically challenging concept of the difference between a liquid ounce and a weight ounce. And yes Virginia, "ml" in 100 ml does stand for something!

Folks, start collecting names and badge numbers of those hero TSAers who protect us from stick deodorant.

TSAers do NOT like "extra attention" they would get through written complaints when they violate their own SOP.

Give those TSAers the extra attention they richly deserve when warranted.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:18 pm
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Originally Posted by LessO2
Folks, start collecting names and badge numbers of those hero TSAers who protect us from stick deodorant.

TSAers do NOT like "extra attention" they would get through written complaints when they violate their own SOP.

Give those TSAers the extra attention they richly deserve when warranted.
How do you propose collecting this information? My experience has been entirely unsucessful, and on one ocassion ending in arrest. I should point out that on this ocassion I was the one that was arrested. I realize the military has lowered their standards concerning arrests and convictions in order to qualifying for service, but I wouldn't want to unknowingly disqualify myself from service.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by sailman
How do you propose collecting this information? My experience has been entirely unsucessful, and on one ocassion ending in arrest. I should point out that on this ocassion I was the one that was arrested. I realize the military has lowered their standards concerning arrests and convictions in order to qualifying for service, but I wouldn't want to unknowingly disqualify myself from service.
Each TSO should have a name plate pinned to his/her uniform. From past posts, Bart has mentioned that each name plate has the TSO's first name and unique TSA ID Number. I would pause long enough to get out a sheet of paper (keep one in my pocket for emergent notes), a pen out of my laptop case, and note the identifying information. Personally, I would love a TSO to attempt to prevent me from capturing this information or threaten me with arrest for attempting to capture said information. Their ID information does not constitute SSI and my capture of said information does not constitute a dangerous/terrorist act on my part.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:32 pm
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Originally Posted by sailman
How do you propose collecting this information? My experience has been entirely unsucessful, and on one ocassion ending in arrest. I should point out that on this ocassion I was the one that was arrested. I realize the military has lowered their standards concerning arrests and convictions in order to qualifying for service, but I wouldn't want to unknowingly disqualify myself from service.
Devil Dog said it.

I have experienced several occasions when TSAers will walk away or angle their body in a way when I look at their nameplate.

Ask ONCE to see it. If they refuse or make it difficult, ask for a supervisor. He or she will likely tell you they will not give it to you because it will interfere with the screener's duties. If so, get the supervisor's name and badge number and be sure to mention the supervisor refused access to the information (in addition to any screener interference).

If you are unable to get the information, get as much information as you can. Such as a physical description of the screener (don't say "the fat slob with a mullet" or something like that), the time of the incident, the lane number, the terminal, etc. As much information as you can.

Send a copy to the local FSD and the local reps with the airline at the airport.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 8:41 am
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I have never once had any problem taking solid deodorant through the screening process. I don't put it in my baggie, I keep it with my other toiletries in my carryon.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by LessO2
Folks, start collecting names and badge numbers of those hero TSAers who protect us from stick deodorant.

TSAers do NOT like "extra attention" they would get through written complaints when they violate their own SOP.

Give those TSAers the extra attention they richly deserve when warranted.
Originally Posted by sailman
How do you propose collecting this information? My experience has been entirely unsucessful, and on one ocassion ending in arrest. I should point out that on this ocassion I was the one that was arrested. I realize the military has lowered their standards concerning arrests and convictions in order to qualifying for service, but I wouldn't want to unknowingly disqualify myself from service.
would it be against the f/t tos to have a thread listing the first names and badge #'s of those that were both out of line and good (have to be fair ) along with a brief (n.b. brief) description of what happened? just a thought....
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