Screeners arguing
#31
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Originally Posted by Tony_B
while I have to agree with Bart that the bottle incident is not 'stealing', it is certainly an improper and probably immoral seizure of someone property. the airport staff though were contemplating stealing. Unfortunately the TSA are stealing liberty every day 
I agree that the attempt to ban the increasing number of "suspect" items is futile and onerous, but the correct course of action, I think, is to contact your representative instead of ranting at Bart (not that you did this, specifically), or the TSA. The problem is a systemic one, and growing in magnitude.
#32
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Originally Posted by Bart
Naive? LOL. You mean that it is possible to go through the day without one hint of information being thrown at you about the goings-on in the world today? I didn't say that people are compelled to follow these developments. What I said, and you may re-read as often as you'd like until you comprehend, is that this information is thrown out there. Whether people decide to absorb it or ignore it is their choice. Although I do find it somewhat interesting that you believe that a reasonable person would reasonably assume that airport security doesn't have a list of sorts that identifies permitted/prohibited items or that this reasonable person of yours wouldn't pause for a moment to assess whether or not anything in his or her carry-on may draw some measure of scrutiny from airport security, especially in a post 9/11 world.
You're the naive one, pal.
You're the naive one, pal.
#33
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Reminds me of a picture I saw once of a British Army traffic checkpoint in Belfast back in the 80s. There was a big sign approaching the checkpoint that said 'Sorry for the inconvenience - Blame the terrorists'.
#34



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This just in. I just went through security at one of my favorite airports.
A little old man and his wife just had their Starbuck's coffee "confiscated". They heard about a water ban. They didn't think it would apply to their coffee!
Yes it happens!!!!
A little old man and his wife just had their Starbuck's coffee "confiscated". They heard about a water ban. They didn't think it would apply to their coffee!
Yes it happens!!!!
#35
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Originally Posted by kaukau
Gotta call b.s. on that quote, Bart. It was confiscated. Pax "decided" not to miss the flight. P.S. You should have doinked pax on head with said bottle for being a dummy. 

How's that feel?
#36
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Originally Posted by red456
Sorry, Bart, secretbunnyboy had it right - you're naive. Yes, there are people who don't have a clue as to what's happening in the world; they don't read the papers or watch the TV news or listen to news on the radio.
#37
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Originally Posted by TierFlyer
Oh, right, big talk from your parents basement in your bunny foot PJ's.
How's that feel?
How's that feel?
Feels good. Being a retired old fart, I miss my bunny foot p,j.'s, and haven't thought about them in a looong time! Mahalo.
#39
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Originally Posted by davidcalgary29
I agree that the attempt to ban the increasing number of "suspect" items is futile and onerous, but the correct course of action, I think, is to contact your representative instead of ranting at Bart (not that you did this, specifically), or the TSA. The problem is a systemic one, and growing in magnitude.
I'm also not sure why someone who posts on an internet forum would disparage such communication?
#40
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Originally Posted by redbeard911
Don't make the rest of us suffer for their ignorance. If a person doesn't keep up with the world around them, that's their problem.
However, anyone who make a statement to the effect that "everybody knows the rules" is also showing his/her ignorance.
#41
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Originally Posted by red456
However, anyone who make a statement to the effect that "everybody knows the rules" is also showing his/her ignorance.
#42
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Originally Posted by Tony_B
"my representative" would have little influence on the policies of a sovereign nation (USA), even though that same nation sure has an impact on mine!
I'm also not sure why someone who posts on an internet forum would disparage such communication?
#43
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Originally Posted by redbeard911
Don't make the rest of us suffer for their ignorance. If a person doesn't keep up with the world around them, that's their problem.
#44
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Originally Posted by red456
I found this on another website:


If all these gels and liquids they are seizing are so dangerous why aren't they all being disposed of correctly by a police or fire department explosive ordinance disposal unit rather than just thrown in the trash? Is the janitorial crew properly trained in EOD?
#45




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Originally Posted by stc
I find it hard to believe that people would still not know that water and liquids are banned thru security. It's all over the news. Your friends talk about it. And at the very least there are BIG SIGNS. So, maybe I can understand someone not understanding and bringing Peanut Butter (two big containers like 48oz each) in their carry-on. But, I cannot understand the person who had a plastic bottle full of what looked like home-brew iced tea. Sometimes you just gotta wonder.
I am amazed at how few of my friends or office staff who do not travel don't "get it." Most of them thought it was just a 1 or 2 day thing. Guarantee the TSA will have a ton of fun at holiday time when droves of clueless infrequent travelers show up.

