A work around to the liquid ban
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Will the TSA notice if I bring Freshen-up gum on board?
http://www.junkfoodblog.com/uploaded...-Up-792378.jpg
Technically, it's a gel inside.
Will they notice it? Will they confiscate it?
Technically, it's a gel inside.
Will they notice it? Will they confiscate it?
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Originally Posted by justageek
Why do you feel compelled to force your hydration philosophy on the rest of us?
Oh, and, yes, I am relatively new to FT, didn't know it was some kind of closed club for closet amphibians, so excuse me. I was also unaware that one had to look at the total number of posts before deciding if an opinion was worth noting. So sorry about that too.
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Originally Posted by ND Sol
Yes, you're right; people with disabilities shouldn't be allowed to fly. 

Actually, the AWDA probably has exceptions written into it for the transportation industry - they are clearly not in any form of compliance.
When I had my own (small) business I put off a bathroom repair for as long as I could because my landlord was going to charge me thousands to make my bathroom "compliant."
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Originally Posted by ND Sol
Looks like you would be wrong in your confident guesstimate:
But I doubt she's a frequent flyer because that particular medical condition apparently makes sitting extremely uncomfortable, not to mention the need to be close to a bathroom at all times. (One of my neighbors has a similar situation and has, as older people will do, given me gory chapter and verse :-) Disclaimer: I am not a doctor and I have a sample size of one!
I stand by my point - the people doing the most b*tching about this are merely upset because it's inconvienent for *them*. Or, as in some of these threads, are constructing the most elaborate circumlocutions available on why this is a bad idea. Yesh.
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Over time one learns to adapt, via what one eats such, that I don't require more access to a bathroom than the average person.
A water bottle with built in filter can easily provide enough safe water onboard the plane without causing medical complications or requiring constant attention from the FAs, even if one must drink water from the tanks.
TSA has a major job to do and it's hard to predict where the terrorists are going to find the next major hole. My only problem would be if TSA does not allow me to carry an empty water bottle on the plane. And I usually fly on transcontinental flights.
A water bottle with built in filter can easily provide enough safe water onboard the plane without causing medical complications or requiring constant attention from the FAs, even if one must drink water from the tanks.
TSA has a major job to do and it's hard to predict where the terrorists are going to find the next major hole. My only problem would be if TSA does not allow me to carry an empty water bottle on the plane. And I usually fly on transcontinental flights.
Last edited by jennifer2456; Sep 4, 2006 at 3:34 pm
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Originally Posted by TierFlyer
Look, of course there are exceptions.
But none (and I am confident in that guesstimate) of those people are posting here, nor are they frequent flyers.
And, frankly, if you've not got salivary glands then perhaps you shouldn't be flying. If you've got (as one fellow on my ORD/DEL plane) dystentary and can't be more than 30 seconds from a bathroom, then perhaps you shouldn't be flying.
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But none (and I am confident in that guesstimate) of those people are posting here, nor are they frequent flyers.
And, frankly, if you've not got salivary glands then perhaps you shouldn't be flying. If you've got (as one fellow on my ORD/DEL plane) dystentary and can't be more than 30 seconds from a bathroom, then perhaps you shouldn't be flying.
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well ....never mind

I am REQUIRED because of lymph node removal with breast cancer surgery to drink alot of fluids in the air to prevent lymphedema. I am also REQUIRED to keep the related arm well moisturized .Is it your contention that I , nor thousands upon thousands of women in similiar circumstances shouldnt fly???????????? I cannot believe the callousness and blatant ignorance contained in your statement.
A person with a salivary gland disorder is simply required to drink alot of fluids. He/she has a condition!!! They otherwise have a normal life, within the limitations of that condition.
May the gods be kind enough to you to never inflict you with any medical issues .
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Originally Posted by TierFlyer
Heh. :-)
Actually, the AWDA probably has exceptions written into it for the transportation industry - they are clearly not in any form of compliance.
When I had my own (small) business I put off a bathroom repair for as long as I could because my landlord was going to charge me thousands to make my bathroom "compliant."
Actually, the AWDA probably has exceptions written into it for the transportation industry - they are clearly not in any form of compliance.
When I had my own (small) business I put off a bathroom repair for as long as I could because my landlord was going to charge me thousands to make my bathroom "compliant."
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Originally Posted by TierFlyer
And, frankly, if you've not got salivary glands then perhaps you shouldn't be flying. If you've got (as one fellow on my ORD/DEL plane) dystentary and can't be more than 30 seconds from a bathroom, then perhaps you shouldn't be flying.
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Ways to prevent dehydration, with out violating security rules (in no specific order):
1) Take empty water bottle and use filter or iodine tablets (I dislike taste of iodine so prefer filtered water).
2) Ask FA for water before plane takes off.
3) Take watermelon or oranges with you.
1) Take empty water bottle and use filter or iodine tablets (I dislike taste of iodine so prefer filtered water).
2) Ask FA for water before plane takes off.
3) Take watermelon or oranges with you.
Last edited by jennifer2456; Sep 4, 2006 at 5:10 pm
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Originally Posted by TierFlyer
I'd actually read her earlier post, but she's taken steps to solve her problem (filtered water bottle if I recall correctly) and isn't sitting around calling the TSA names and demanding a river of Aquafina flow down the aisle of the plane. (Though that would be cool.)
But I doubt she's a frequent flyer because that particular medical condition apparently makes sitting extremely uncomfortable, not to mention the need to be close to a bathroom at all times. (One of my neighbors has a similar situation and has, as older people will do, given me gory chapter and verse :-) Disclaimer: I am not a doctor and I have a sample size of one!
I stand by my point - the people doing the most b*tching about this are merely upset because it's inconvienent for *them*. Or, as in some of these threads, are constructing the most elaborate circumlocutions available on why this is a bad idea. Yesh.
But I doubt she's a frequent flyer because that particular medical condition apparently makes sitting extremely uncomfortable, not to mention the need to be close to a bathroom at all times. (One of my neighbors has a similar situation and has, as older people will do, given me gory chapter and verse :-) Disclaimer: I am not a doctor and I have a sample size of one!
I stand by my point - the people doing the most b*tching about this are merely upset because it's inconvienent for *them*. Or, as in some of these threads, are constructing the most elaborate circumlocutions available on why this is a bad idea. Yesh.
As for Jennifer2456 using a water filter bottle (I am using my MIOX which will also kill viruses which the water filter bottles will not), that doesn't do any good when bottle has to go on empty. It would not be unusual that the first opportunity that she is provided to receive water is 50 minutes after she boards. And with turbulence, it would be even longer.
Let's not lose sight of the reason for this ban. Liquid explosives do not appear to be credible. And when a liquid is found, the TSO just takes it away and it is never tested. So we will never know if the TSA has now sent liquid explosives to the landfill. All the while I watch the two puffer machines sit idle at IAH every time I have been through. This is taking an axe when a scalpel is more appropriate. And the convenience is for the TSA; passengers' convenience be dam**d.
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hydration etc.
By the way, although many people have specific needs for extra water (as
we've seen right here in this thread), my main objection to the water-ban is
the way it infantilizes passengers.
I don't think someone should have to have a "special need" in order to follow
what has been chapter-and-verse of good travel preparation for decades:
bring your immediate needs right with you, in case you need them. I.e. don't
rely on someone else to come and rescue you from predictable situations.
Sure, I carry more water than the average person, and more now than in
previous years because I'm pregnant and often travel with my children. But
I'm just as peeved that Mr. Business-Traveller-no-special-water-needs can't
carry *his* own water bottle. I just think that something as personal and
as *SAFE* as drinking water, should be a basic human right.
No one benefits when people have to beg overworked FA's for more
waitstaff services, even if there were adequate supplies of safe and
appropriate beverages onboard.
--LG
we've seen right here in this thread), my main objection to the water-ban is
the way it infantilizes passengers.
I don't think someone should have to have a "special need" in order to follow
what has been chapter-and-verse of good travel preparation for decades:
bring your immediate needs right with you, in case you need them. I.e. don't
rely on someone else to come and rescue you from predictable situations.
Sure, I carry more water than the average person, and more now than in
previous years because I'm pregnant and often travel with my children. But
I'm just as peeved that Mr. Business-Traveller-no-special-water-needs can't
carry *his* own water bottle. I just think that something as personal and
as *SAFE* as drinking water, should be a basic human right.
No one benefits when people have to beg overworked FA's for more
waitstaff services, even if there were adequate supplies of safe and
appropriate beverages onboard.
--LG
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Originally Posted by TierFlyer
I am not forcing my "hydration philosophy" on you any more than you are forcing your anti-TSA philisophy on me. We're just talking. (Typing if you will.)
Now, if the government shut down the TSA because of my complaints, I guess you could say that I am forcing my anti-TSA philosophy on you. But that hasn't happened, and is unlikely.
Originally Posted by TierFlyer
Oh, and, yes, I am relatively new to FT, didn't know it was some kind of closed club for closet amphibians, so excuse me. I was also unaware that one had to look at the total number of posts before deciding if an opinion was worth noting. So sorry about that too.
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Originally Posted by jennifer2456
3) Take watermelon or oranges with you.
hyderate yourself.. they will be considered as WMD and would be
banned soon. Better be ready to get a prescription for those.
On an important note, I second your idea of the bottle with filteration.
There is nothing in the TSA manual that will ban you from taking it on the
flight, and if someone stops you, you can contest it. You should also make
it clear to the airline when you book the flight that you require extra
water due to a medical condition and they should have extra bottles on
board for you. If anybody gives you trouble, you can always mention the
fine legal system of the United States.
(I'd rather not take things that way, but mentioning it can get things
done)
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I dont encourage people doing this, but here is one way to
work around the issue
http://www.thebeerbelly.com/
I remember seeing this on news a while back...
work around the issue

http://www.thebeerbelly.com/
I remember seeing this on news a while back...
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Originally Posted by cpx
I dont encourage people doing this, but here is one way to
work around the issue
http://www.thebeerbelly.com/
I remember seeing this on news a while back...
work around the issue

http://www.thebeerbelly.com/
I remember seeing this on news a while back...
There's also http://www.thunderwear.com/, which I know people have used to smuggle liquids into stadiums, etc. Of course, both of these would be construed as "artful concealment" by the TSA and probably subject one to nasty, nasty fines and prosecution, whereas one's pockets are much easier to pass off as, "Oops--I forgot!"

