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Aug 11, 2006, 9:31 am
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Another point. Uric Acid (present in urine) can be distilled and made into an explosive compound (so says the Poor Man's James Bond, I haven't tried it).
Maybe the in-flight lavatories will be shut down now, too.
Maybe the in-flight lavatories will be shut down now, too.
Aug 11, 2006, 9:39 am
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Originally Posted by enthusiastic flier
While I'm not completely denying what you're saying, I feel compelled to repeat what I said on a different thread in the same forum a couple of days back: It doesn't take a lot to buddy up w/a janitor or whatever who's going to be on duty the same time you're gonna be airside. And that's not even being creative.
Aug 11, 2006, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by UMassCanuck07
Ummmm....have you read the news? The terrorists were going to use liquid explosives. That is why. While the vendors and products are screened in the X-Ray machine, they are not checked more thoroughly. While it is unlikely, someone could sneak something through for someone else that way.
Aug 11, 2006, 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by Dave8481
Yes, I have be reading and watching the news and I know they were using liquid explosives and I know they are afraid the bottled beverages sold after security in the terminal could have been tampered with, but the terrorists cannot magically turn a bottle of water or coke into explosives. But that brings me back to my main point...This threat was mainly based around threats taking place in the UK and a certain UK sports drink and while I know we must take precautions here and I am more than happy to not take my own drinks on the plane for the immediate future it just is hard for me to understand them not allowing people to buy bottles of water or diet coke in the terminal after security and take them on the plane. The whole thing doesn't bother me a whole lot because I never drink much while I am flying anyway, but I know alot of people either want to or need drink alot of water while flying for health reasons and such.
Aug 11, 2006, 9:51 am
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Originally Posted by exerda
For that matter, it probably doesn't take much to buddy up with the caterers for the flights, either. Guess we WILL have to ban in-flight beverage services after all.
I could sit here all day long coming up with holes the TSA will never plug.
We need to face some facts - we will never be fully safe and risk is part of the equation.
By now, with more information at hand, the TSA should be preparing to unwind these screening procedures and return things to normal. If there is evidence the threat is still out there, we should be notified.
Aug 11, 2006, 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by etch5895
Another point. Uric Acid (present in urine) can be distilled and made into an explosive compound (so says the Poor Man's James Bond, I haven't tried it).
Maybe the in-flight lavatories will be shut down now, too.
Maybe the in-flight lavatories will be shut down now, too.
Aug 11, 2006, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by sfoeuroflyer
There are some obvious things here.
1. An absolute ban on carryons is a non starter. It may be fine for grandma and grandpa, but not for business travelers. I need my papers while aboard the airplane and cannot afford the risk of delay or loss of those materials and my computer, Blackberry, cell phone etc if they are placed in the hold.
1. An absolute ban on carryons is a non starter. It may be fine for grandma and grandpa, but not for business travelers. I need my papers while aboard the airplane and cannot afford the risk of delay or loss of those materials and my computer, Blackberry, cell phone etc if they are placed in the hold.
Aug 11, 2006, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by Axey
I have an idea -- let's just ban passengers.
Aug 11, 2006, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
We don't need to go that far off the cliff. First we can have virtual strip searches; then the full-monty; then body cavity searches; then medication to flush the digestive and excretory system; then chained passengers; then naked only passengers; then sedated passengers; and only then no passengers.
Aug 11, 2006, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by UMassCanuck07
Like has been mentioned a few times over the last 30 hours, not all workers in the terminal go through the background searches. At most airports only the SIDA workers go through the background checks and FBI fingerprinting. An unsavory person could be working at Hudson News helping the terrorists. Better to be safe.
Aug 11, 2006, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by etch5895
"Virtual strip search"? Help me out here, the imagination isn't up to speed today.
Aug 11, 2006, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by enthusiastic flier
While I'm not completely denying what you're saying, I feel compelled to repeat what I said on a different thread in the same forum a couple of days back: It doesn't take a lot to buddy up w/a janitor or whatever who's going to be on duty the same time you're gonna be airside. And that's not even being creative.