"Personal Item" in Suitcase

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Jul 28, 2004 | 12:01 am
  #1  
I was at the Terminal 4, B concourse checkpoint in PHX sunday night. The person ahead of me had his bags sent through the machine several times, which held things up a bit. Finally he was sent to the secondary area.

In secondary they went through his bags and came out with what appeared to be a large blue... male personal pump device. The screener doing the search asked if he could show the item to the man working the machine to explain to him what the image he saw was. Sheepishly, the screenee agreed. The screener then carried the personal item through the checkpoint for everybody to see.

Although somewhat amused, I wonder does the TSA have a policy on finding sensitive items in pax luggage and how they are treated?

Just curious.
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Jul 28, 2004 | 12:53 am
  #2  
Quote: I was at the Terminal 4, B concourse checkpoint in PHX sunday night. The person ahead of me had his bags sent through the machine several times, which held things up a bit. Finally he was sent to the secondary area.

In secondary they went through his bags and came out with what appeared to be a large blue... male personal pump device. The screener doing the search asked if he could show the item to the man working the machine to explain to him what the image he saw was. Sheepishly, the screenee agreed. The screener then carried the personal item through the checkpoint for everybody to see.

Although somewhat amused, I wonder does the TSA have a policy on finding sensitive items in pax luggage and how they are treated?

Just curious.
Some people do such to have fun with the TSA.
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Jul 28, 2004 | 11:41 am
  #3  
A quote from this trip report from B747-437B:

"During dinner, the conversation turned to security screening and Haley jokingly suggested that it would be fun to pack an adult toy in the bag just to see the screener's reaction. Never one to pass up a challenge, I agreed to try this for my trip back. Accordingly, we headed off to an adult store after dinner where I proceeded to purchase the most graphically packaged set of anal beads that I could find. The packaging featured an illustration of a naked woman inserting them into the appropriate orifice and the beads themselves were a horrendous bright pink. Perfect."

.. and ..

"I had placed the anal beads strategically near the top of the bag where you could not see them unless you moved my sweatshirt which was packed on top of it. Sure enough, the first thing this poor innocent girl moved was the sweatshirt, bringing her face to face with the beads. The look on her face was priceless as she let out a stifled scream, replaced the sweatshirt and quickly zipped up the bag without any further intrusions. Sorry honey, all is fair in love and war and President Bush said we are at war, right?"

http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=181384
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Jul 28, 2004 | 5:32 pm
  #4  
Was called over to the X-Ray once for a bag that was humming.

First I asked what song it was humming then had a female screener (with gloves on) inspect the female passenger's bag (already knowing what the object was due to the bright red face the passenger had).

Female screener asked me why I picked her, I responded "because you know how to shut it off" (yes, she took it as a joke)

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Jul 28, 2004 | 8:21 pm
  #5  
"Good knife, bad knife" explained...
My best memory of PHX airport was when Lady JDiver's bag came out of the carousel, but mine didn't. After a long time, I began to look... and an officious twit dressed in a uniform came over and asked me what I was doing. He then pointed to a bag that was parked in a corner of the area and asked me if that was my bag.

I replied in the affirmative, at which Mr. Twit grabbed the bag and told me "Come with me!" I inquired as to where we were going, and he merely replied, louder than before, "You have to come with me!" When I told him that actually, that may have been true where I had just arrived from (Mexico,) this was not true here in the USA, and if he was detaining me, I had a right to know what the reason was.

He fixed me with the most accusatory look he could screw his face into (must be some technique taught in security school) and said "There's a KNIFE in that bag!" I again replied in the affirmative, and further explained that it was a dive knife, in my dive bag - in fact a honking, big, serrated, sharp dive knife big enough to stick in the sand in a ripping current and hold you there, but I had checked the bag containing it into the airline, so it was entirely legal.

He really didn't like that... "But you were going to take it through there!" he fairly shouted - duh, corridors with no security, leading to where I could check in my bags, process security and access my next flight (to SMF.) I told him, yes, that was true, and in fact, Lady JDiver's similar dive bag had an identical big, honking dive knife.

The ever-classic reply of a person with true microcephalic capabilities was "Yes, she can do that, but you can't take your bag through there." On inquiring why that was, he told me "because we didn't SEE hers on the X-Ray machine."

Dear readers, I won't bore you with the rest - how my bag was dropped out on the tarmac for an hour or so, how the baggage agent refused to do anything until I called for a supervisor to do something (reluctantly!) and how she finally glowed and gloated for ordering someone to find the bag and doing her job... much less how I spoke with two security supervisors who didn't understand what my problem with their procedure was, and refused to do anything about it.

I just wanted to inform you of a concept, possibly pioneered at PHX, I now call "good knife, bad knife." Maybe you wil see a version of this at an airport near you soon, as it could trickle out, even across the trackless desert... Another feature of enhanced airport security, for your protection...
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Jul 29, 2004 | 8:06 pm
  #6  
Quote: Female screener asked me why I picked her, I responded "because you know how to shut it off" (yes, she took it as a joke)

Um, TSAMGR, this is off thread, but you really ought to be careful about a remark like that. Humorous (to a point) yes, but probably borderline harassment, no matter how friendly or personal your relationship is with that staffer. Maybe you're being facetious here, but that's something that could get you fired. The correct comment is that you wanted a female screener to put the pax more at ease with what was obviously a very embarrassing and personal item.

Maybe I've been indoctrinated at work about harassment too much, but that really seems like an out of line comment and you really shouldn't have made it in reality or even here in fun.
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Jul 30, 2004 | 7:31 am
  #7  
Quote: I was at the Terminal 4, B concourse checkpoint in PHX sunday night. The person ahead of me had his bags sent through the machine several times, which held things up a bit. Finally he was sent to the secondary area.

In secondary they went through his bags and came out with what appeared to be a large blue... male personal pump device. The screener doing the search asked if he could show the item to the man working the machine to explain to him what the image he saw was. Sheepishly, the screenee agreed. The screener then carried the personal item through the checkpoint for everybody to see.

Although somewhat amused, I wonder does the TSA have a policy on finding sensitive items in pax luggage and how they are treated?

Just curious.
The pax name wasn't "Austin Powers" was it ?
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Jul 30, 2004 | 11:50 am
  #8  
Quote: Maybe I've been indoctrinated at work about harassment too much, but that really seems like an out of line comment and you really shouldn't have made it in reality or even here in fun.
This is the problem with this litigious society we have here in the USA.

TSAMGR - No harm, no foul!
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Jul 31, 2004 | 1:36 pm
  #9  
Quote: This is the problem with this litigious society we have here in the USA.

TSAMGR - No harm, no foul!
The female screener was brought over to ease the passenger and make it less embarrassing. The female screener actually started it (away from the public) and knew what I was going to say. The screener didn't perceive it as harassment nor would it have been mentioned if there was any chance of it being taken any other way.
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Jul 31, 2004 | 1:49 pm
  #10  
Quote: Maybe I've been indoctrinated at work about harassment too much, but that really seems like an out of line comment and you really shouldn't have made it in reality or even here in fun.
Tell you what.. I'm a consultant and I am continually amazed by how different the harrassment standards are in the various companies I visit. In some companies, anything off color is taboo. In others, everyone, men and women alike, exchange sexual jokes and innuendo. There's a loose correlation with company size, but the diversity is staggering.
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Aug 1, 2004 | 10:40 am
  #11  
Quote: Tell you what.. I'm a consultant and I am continually amazed by how different the harrassment standards are in the various companies I visit. In some companies, anything off color is taboo. In others, everyone, men and women alike, exchange sexual jokes and innuendo. There's a loose correlation with company size, but the diversity is staggering.
Sounds just like TSA, just substitute "company" with any/all of the following "airport/terminal/shift/gate".
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Aug 1, 2004 | 6:19 pm
  #12  
Quote: In secondary they went through his bags and came out with what appeared to be a large blue... male personal pump device. The screener doing the search asked if he could show the item to the man working the machine to explain to him what the image he saw was. Sheepishly, the screenee agreed. The screener then carried the personal item through the checkpoint for everybody to see.

Although somewhat amused, I wonder does the TSA have a policy on finding sensitive items in pax luggage and how they are treated?

Just curious.
The situation could be that of the screener not even realizing that the item was in fact a personal use item. It could happen.
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Aug 2, 2004 | 8:23 pm
  #13  
Quote:
During dinner, the conversation turned to security screening and Haley jokingly suggested that it would be fun to pack an adult toy in the bag just to see the screener's reaction.
I'll admit it. This posting inspired me to do the same thing and "bait" my carry-on. Bummer -- usually I get wrapped up in the shoe fetish and my carry-on isn't searched anymore. I'd love to have it happen at a place like DFW where there is no "privacy" area.
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Aug 4, 2004 | 10:00 am
  #14  
Last year the warning in India was that you were not allowed to take the following items on board :"Knives,swords, explosives etc...and coconuts!!"
Think about it, they don't allow you the smallest pen knife/nail file on board but you can still buy 2 glass bottles of red wine in duty free.

Between you and I I know which one I would prefer to be stabbed with !
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Aug 4, 2004 | 3:45 pm
  #15  
If you just have to take a "personal" item in your luggage, the make some really cute lipstick size ones..A pocket rocket
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