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Originally Posted by EAJuggalo
(Post 32133800)
There is no way my Tribal ID would be machine readable. It looks like a 5th grader did it in a bad photoshop knock off. I've had it for 10 years and it never expires. Maybe I will try it at MKE in two weeks and see what the ID checker says.
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I've had the issue again where my just-updated BP from being cleared onto an earlier SB has meant the machines can't automatically "Green" me as the systems haven't updated yet- but apparently now there's a mitigation in place where they can see all the flights you've got scheduled that day. They ask me my flight number (or destination, I forget) and I give 'em the old flight info and get approved then.
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Originally Posted by danib62
(Post 32134029)
I’ve tried using my PIV card (federal employee ID card) with the new machines and have been asked for a different ID even though it’s valid for TSA purposes. Not sure what would’ve happened if I didn’t produce my drivers license at that point.
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Originally Posted by phltraveler
(Post 32032726)
Just encountered one of these for the first time at TPA A-gates, went to offer up my boarding pass and the TSO said you don't need that today. The TSO put my NEXUS card in the reader, took about 7-8 seconds before the machine produced a chime (seemingly a satisfied/OK/good tone).
Faster than a paper boarding pass where the TSO has to circle a few items with the pen? Maybe. Faster than a digital boarding pass/ID check? Seemingly not. Although I'm not sure it matters - after the ID check the longer part of the line seemed to be carry-on bag scanning as far as a bottleneck. |
I only use my GE as ID when I fly and it does take longer than a DL (something the TDC will mention sometimes), but not normally by much (a few seconds, provided my info is in the system- see my post above about changes).
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I have not flown since February until this week. Never seen this technology before. But I believe it was in use at JAX, STL and DTW. STL for sure. I used my Drivers License at JAX and DTW but tried my Passport Card at STL and it was taken there just fine.
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SNA has had this for a couple of months now too (at least at "C")
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New York TSA Checkpoints Are Using New ID Authentication Technology
Transportation Security Administration (TSA) officers at John F. Kennedy International and LaGuardia Airports in New York are utilizing new technology at passenger checkpoints that both verifies travelers’ identifications and confirms their flight details, in close-to-real time. *** “In addition to enhancing detection capabilities for identifying fake IDs, the credential system is able to confirm a passenger’s flight status in near-real time through a secured connection,” said Robert Duffy, TSA’s Federal Security Director for LaGuardia Airport. At checkpoints, travelers hand their ID cards to a TSA officer for insertion into the CAT unit, which scans each card and indicates whether the ID is valid or not. In some places, units are positioned to allow passengers to insert their IDs themselves. In most instances, travelers approaching the TSA travel document checking station don’t need to show their boarding passes because the CAT unit has already cleared them as prescreened for travel out of the airport on that day; although, those with ID issues or passengers under the age of 18 may be asked to present one. *** CAT units have the ability to authenticate thousands of ID types, including passports, military common access cards, retired military ID cards, Department of Homeland Security Trusted Traveler ID cards, uniformed services ID cards, permanent resident cards, U.S. visas, and driver’s licenses and photo IDs issued by state motor vehicle departments. Each unit... consists of a passport reader, ID card reader, Federal personal identity verification ID card reader, a monitor, stand and UV light. *** |
Being able to authenticate thousands of different types of IDs in seconds is no small feat, so kudos to the agencies that designed that.
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Did it for the first time at BDL a couple weeks ago going through pre-check, Surprised me as I never saw it before but it was quicker than the BP check/scribbling.
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Honolulu (HNL) is now operational - used it last week. Wife used her DL and I used my passport card. Worked well and was quick.
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ID Rejected by TSA Twice (but the third time was the charm)
I recently departed an airport that uses the ID-only check at TSA Pre. A gentleman in front of me got the 'bad' beep from the machine three times in a row, at which time the TSO said he had to go back to the airline's checkin counter. I also got the bad beep twice, but it worked the third time. I've never had this happen before.
I'm just curious - does anyone know how this system works? Is this a TSA issue? An airline issue? Something wrong with my ID (which, for the record, is less than a year old)? |
Originally Posted by TBD
(Post 33590190)
I recently departed an airport that uses the ID-only check at TSA Pre. A gentleman in front of me got the 'bad' beep from the machine three times in a row, at which time the TSO said he had to go back to the airline's checkin counter. I also got the bad beep twice, but it worked the third time. I've never had this happen before.
I'm just curious - does anyone know how this system works? Is this a TSA issue? An airline issue? Something wrong with my ID (which, for the record, is less than a year old)? |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
(Post 33590449)
If the names on the ticket’s boarding pass doesn’t come across to the TSA upon scanning the ID, it’s presumed to not be an ID match for the ticketed booking’s passenger. That’s when the TSA practice is supposed to be to send such passengers back to the airline to get the ticketed booking adjusted to drive a sufficiently “exact name match” that the scanned ID doesn’t give a “no match” kind of indicator upon scanning the ID and trying to match against surveilled bookings (and their boarding passes) when the passenger returns (after the airline’s fix) for the TSA’s travel document check for the same flight.
I also don't understand why we're at a single-point of failure here. The guy in front of me had his boarding pass ready. The agent should have done a manual check before kicking him back to the airline check-in counter. |
One interesting data point is the scanners still don't recognize HSPD-12 PIV cards (AKA federal government employee ID cards) despite them being on the TSA list of acceptable IDs. Anytime I try to use mine at an airport that's using the scanners the TSO will ask me if I have another form of ID. No idea what would happen if I said no.
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