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Randyk47 Sep 6, 2017 5:29 am

It has been reported here somewhere but it's early in the morning and my coffee hasn't taken full effect so I can't find it. As I recall it's a test program and TSA is getting advanced information from the airlines so they don't need the BP.

TWA884 Sep 6, 2017 9:30 am


Originally Posted by legalalien (Post 28782521)
Didn't find another thread on this...

At ORD T2 this morning TSA Pre document checker did not seem to require a BP scan: they looked up flight details by scanning drivers license. I changed my flight from AA to DL on Monday night, and it seems to have confused their system, as the checker asked whether I used to have an AA flight, then asked to scan my BP. But people ahead of me in the line clearly did not have to scan theirs.

Is this something new that I missed? Not having to scribble on paper BP or mess with dim screens or locked phones will certainly speed things up at Pre checkpoints.


Originally Posted by Randyk47 (Post 28782564)
It has been reported here somewhere but it's early in the morning and my coffee hasn't taken full effect so I can't find it. As I recall it's a test program and TSA is getting advanced information from the airlines so they don't need the BP.

I remembered that there were a couple of threads discussing this new procedure in the Trusted Travelers and in the Policy Debate forum, however, they did not show up in the results when I searched for the terms "precheck+boarding+pass".

I manually scrolled through the forum index and located this thread, where your question has now been merged.

TWA884
Travel Safety/Security co-moderator

legalalien Sep 6, 2017 3:52 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 28783473)
I manually scrolled through the forum index and located this thread, where your question has now been merged.

TWA884
Travel Safety/Security co-moderator

Thank you. The best place to hide a body is on page 3 of search results. :D

eeflyer Sep 6, 2017 5:23 pm

I was flying out of IAD last week and had a cadet at one of the service academies in front of me. When his ID was scanned, the TSA agent was curious about all the changes that the cadet apparently made on his itinerary. Interesting that that amount of detail is available.

SFOrunner Sep 19, 2017 12:13 pm

No Boarding Pass Req'd at ORD Today
 
Just went through the TSA Precheck lane today at ORD in Terminal 3. They had two TSA agents - one was checking ID and boarding pass. The one I went through was only checking ID's. She scanned my passport in a small device and I was on my way.

DarkHelmetII Oct 2, 2017 8:19 am

Precheck - TSA Agent Not Checking Boarding Pass?
 
Hello - this morning at IAD pre-check, the TSA agent scanned my photo ID but did not have any interest in seeing my boarding pass. Assuming there is some kind of "link" between my identity (as defined by my drivers license) and the pre-check enrollment? I mean, how else does TSA confirm I am pre-check eligible? Would not make sense to me that TSA agent is depending on the non-TSA airport / contract staff verifying the Pre-Check is simply printed on the boarding pass, as the validation that I am in fact a pre-check passenger.

Randyk47 Oct 2, 2017 8:44 am

This appears to be part of a TSA test but it sounds like it’s spreading to more airports. It’s being discussed here: No Boarding Pass Required at TSA PreCheck Lane

Often1 Oct 2, 2017 10:27 am

IAD is one of the announced pilot sites.

drewguy Oct 6, 2017 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by DarkHelmetII (Post 28883985)
Hello - this morning at IAD pre-check, the TSA agent scanned my photo ID but did not have any interest in seeing my boarding pass. Assuming there is some kind of "link" between my identity (as defined by my drivers license) and the pre-check enrollment? I mean, how else does TSA confirm I am pre-check eligible? Would not make sense to me that TSA agent is depending on the non-TSA airport / contract staff verifying the Pre-Check is simply printed on the boarding pass, as the validation that I am in fact a pre-check passenger.

By scanning your ID it checks your name and other confirming information (birthday) against the flight manifest info. That will contain pre-check eligibility as well. The only difference from what happened before is now the database can be accessed via your name instead of just your BP (which, when scanned, checked to confirm you're on flight).

In some ways it should be more reliable/accurate because the scan is of your ID so it's all computer matching, and eliminates the possibility the agent misreads your name and the name on the BP. All the agent needs to do is check to see your picture matches you, which happened before.

dgparent Oct 14, 2017 5:32 am

New TSA Machines at CLT - ID Compliant ?
 
Was going through Pre check at CLT yesterday and the line was longer than normal, they have new machines where you no longer need a BP. The guy in front of me had to produce a different ID, I have a DL from a ID compliant state and the TSA guy just scanned it and passed me through. Asked the guy in front of me for his DL, not sure what ID he was trying to use, not a passport that I know. Anyone know what the deal is ?

Often1 Oct 14, 2017 6:14 am

What did he try to use?

Without knowing what the guy in front of you tried to use, it is impossible to tell you "what the deal is." Presumably he tried to use an acceptable form of ID and was asked to produce one that was.

The new system does not change the rules for acceptable ID, but it may on occasion require manual intervention if you can't produce one in the pilot system.

Flyer78 Oct 14, 2017 8:25 am

I encountered a similar machine at AUS (scans only ID, not boarding pass); and it had no issue with my non-RealID compliant PA license. All the agent said is "it's something new we're trying."

(Yes, I have backup forms of compliant ID, just was not expecting it.)

mnbp Oct 15, 2017 6:46 pm

It's a pilot program.

http://kxan.com/2017/07/31/tsa-pre-c...ustin-airport/

drewguy Oct 16, 2017 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by dgparent (Post 28931234)
Was going through Pre check at CLT yesterday and the line was longer than normal, they have new machines where you no longer need a BP. The guy in front of me had to produce a different ID, I have a DL from a ID compliant state and the TSA guy just scanned it and passed me through. Asked the guy in front of me for his DL, not sure what ID he was trying to use, not a passport that I know. Anyone know what the deal is ?

It's not a Real-ID issue, because those limits don't begin until 1/22/18. Maybe he was using a school ID, or an employer (private sector) ID - who knows.

wayan Oct 29, 2017 4:16 am

New TSA ID Check System at Dulles Airport
 
For your flying convenience, the TSA Security Theatre has upped its game at Dulles International Airport!

No longer does a screener guess if your license is valid and your boarding pass is real with a causal glance at both documents.

Now they have a fancy computer screen to tell them all!



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