TSA Eliminates Right to Opt Out of Nude-o-scope Body Scanners
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TSA Eliminates Right to Opt Out of Nude-o-scope Body Scanners
For now, you may be allowed to opt out if the supervisor decides to grant you that privilege. But you must petition as a proper supplicat--on your knees. And of course it will be easy to issue an updated policy directive next year that there will be no exceptions.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/23/tsa-electronic-body-scans-opt-out-policy
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/dec/23/tsa-electronic-body-scans-opt-out-policy
TSA sharply curtails ability to opt out of electronic body screening at airports
The Transportation Security Agency has ended a policy that allows any passenger to opt out of an electronic screening, under a new directive issued last week.
In a report issued quietly on 18 December – days before one of the busiest travel periods of the year – the US travel security agency said some passengers will still be allowed to opt out of the full-body electronic screening and go through a physical search instead.
The Transportation Security Agency has ended a policy that allows any passenger to opt out of an electronic screening, under a new directive issued last week.
In a report issued quietly on 18 December – days before one of the busiest travel periods of the year – the US travel security agency said some passengers will still be allowed to opt out of the full-body electronic screening and go through a physical search instead.
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Great message to send to the 'bad guys'.
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I am not sure what the big deal is? Are people scared they will get radiation poisoning? In this era of heightened security, I feel it is better to be safe than sorry. If terrorist get through security people are complaining about TSA, if they enact measures to stop terrorist people are complaining. They can't win so they are probably just saying Fuc@#% it we are doing everyone.
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If terrorist get through security people are complaining about TSA, if they enact measures to stop terrorist people are complaining.
However,
a) this means that TSA has an obligation to be effective in screening people in wheelchairs, regardless of whether or not they're "faking it", and therefore they have no right to try to find out if that's the case or not,
b) AIT is not more effective than patdown anyway (it's less effective, but faster when it doesn't false positive),
c) the actual holes in security are not some pax claiming a bogus busted shoulder, but rather the people going around because they work there. (See e.g. the various drug smuggling rings that have gotten busted.)
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TSA must have some evidence that suggests Pat Downs are less effective than WBI. If not why change the policy to make WBI mandatory for some people for whatever reason TSA wishes to use at that moment?
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I am not sure what the big deal is? Are people scared they will get radiation poisoning? In this era of heightened security, I feel it is better to be safe than sorry. If terrorist get through security people are complaining about TSA, if they enact measures to stop terrorist people are complaining. They can't win so they are probably just saying Fuc@#% it we are doing everyone.
Passenger screening is a production to make people "feel" safe.
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Yup. Security is only as strong as it's weakest link. I'd love to see how TSA handled my mother's folding blind-cane but she didn't live to the TSA era so I'll probably never know. No matter what scrutiny she drew by officials in various countries nobody ever paid any attention to her cane despite the fact that if it wasn't in it's bag it was totally obvious that it was hollow.
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There are inefficiencies is every program to include TSA screening. TSA/Airlines should get raw with people and say. If you don't like the program don't travel, find another means of transportation, this is what we have decided and this is what we are going to do. On the flip side if they do enact this attitude then they must be efficient and foolproof as possible. We will see what the future holds for airline travel.
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Check out the Constitution of the United States sometime. Article IV in particular.
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Body scanners do not work, do not do what the government claims and were not designed for that use. They have no place in airports.
Most of what the TSA does has nothing to do with security, does not provide security and is simply not needed in any way whatsoever. The methods used by TSA (and many other governments who have fallen into line behind US demands) reduce security. They spend so much time looking for things that are not threats that they miss things that are. The set up of checkpoints, and the delays that things such as body scanners create, mean that any "terrorist" has no need to get into the secure side of an airport, there is a far better target - the checkpoint itself.