Strip Seach Question
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Where were your belongings while this violation was going on? Did they bring them into the room with you or leave them outside? The handbag was handed off to another person and handed back to me as I left, I checked it when it was handed to me and every thing was in order. Well not quite the camera was on but that was it.
PLEASE submit a complaint to DHS, TSA, your Senators and Representative, ACLU, EPIC, etc!
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Not trying to be defensive here, but I am really curious if this was a Customs inspection because our uniforms are too damn alike.
By the way, for those who don't know, I've always opposed the current TSA uniform. I do not like the LEO-like appearance. I am more for the khaki and pullover appearance because it is more practical, whether working checkpoint or checked baggage. I disagree with the whole notion that metal badges make us more professional, and, having carried a badge for over 20 years, I see a lot of potential problems that come with just having a badge.
At any rate, this would not be the first time that CBP was mistaken for TSA.
By the way, for those who don't know, I've always opposed the current TSA uniform. I do not like the LEO-like appearance. I am more for the khaki and pullover appearance because it is more practical, whether working checkpoint or checked baggage. I disagree with the whole notion that metal badges make us more professional, and, having carried a badge for over 20 years, I see a lot of potential problems that come with just having a badge.
At any rate, this would not be the first time that CBP was mistaken for TSA.
Last edited by sweeper20; Jun 17, 2011 at 8:31 am
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The way I understand the exchange, the court was trying to address the issue of regulatory authority, whether TSA needs to have a formal regulatory process or can just make a change in checkpoint procedures without such a process. TSA was claiming the latter. To explore the boundaries of that, the court asked a question, specifying what everybody understood would be an unacceptable procedure. The TSA's answer was that was no matter what the procedure, they didn't need to go through a formal regulatory process. The discussion there was about the process of changing the procedure, not the acceptability of specific procedures, and indeed the US attorney said that such a procedure would have 4th Amendment issues.
Last edited by RichardKenner; Jun 17, 2011 at 8:34 am
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If they really thought it might be a bomb, why are they playing with it?
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I'm still not convinced that this was a TSA search. There is nothing in the TSA SOP that requires officers to instruct or force passengers to remove blouses or otherwise strip down to the bra.
With the term "at security" applying loosely, I am curious if this was an inspection by customs. If so, I can't comment because I don't know their procedures.
If it was TSA (and that's a big IF), then I fully agree that the OP has a very legitimate complaint. But I have yet to be convinced that TSOs were involved.
With the term "at security" applying loosely, I am curious if this was an inspection by customs. If so, I can't comment because I don't know their procedures.
If it was TSA (and that's a big IF), then I fully agree that the OP has a very legitimate complaint. But I have yet to be convinced that TSOs were involved.
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#103
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Excellent point! What if turning if turning it on resulted in a detonation...oh, never mind....wishful thinking again! </sarcasm>
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Correct. Overseas I have been asked to power up devices by foreign security screeners on a number of occasions. In every case they asked me to power up my device, visually verified it powered up and then asked me to turn it off.
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I'm still not convinced that this was a TSA search. There is nothing in the TSA SOP that requires officers to instruct or force passengers to remove blouses or otherwise strip down to the bra.
With the term "at security" applying loosely, I am curious if this was an inspection by customs. If so, I can't comment because I don't know their procedures.
If it was TSA (and that's a big IF), then I fully agree that the OP has a very legitimate complaint. But I have yet to be convinced that TSOs were involved.
With the term "at security" applying loosely, I am curious if this was an inspection by customs. If so, I can't comment because I don't know their procedures.
If it was TSA (and that's a big IF), then I fully agree that the OP has a very legitimate complaint. But I have yet to be convinced that TSOs were involved.



