I can tell you already now what is going to happen if I am approched by you.

First there is no way in a million that I would say YES to a scanner.
And no way to a pat down.
If you insist it will all be in public.

I dont wear undies and most of the time a tight short skirt.

I will not go in private screening.
Plus I am very sensitive. I bruise very easy and I am a rape victim.

You might (probably) force the issue.
So I have no problem stripping in public.

So what will you then do.
You dont want to see naked body parts or touch them.
You just want to touch clothed body parts.

You touch me and I have buildt in me to strike. Learnt that after my rape.

Language is also my second language so we could have a language barrier (missunderstanding going on).

You touch me in my private areas you will get sued.
And believe you will.

So just try and you will see.

I'm wondering, how many "enahanced" pat-downs have you been through? Seriously?

Are you planning in flying soon?

Yes I was planning.
But now I have cancelled all my travelling plans.
There is now way I would go through scanner. Both radiation and been seen naked my "an unknown".

I will not accepted being groped.
if it comes down to that I will strip in public not in private.
Cause I am not shy just very private.

I will just not accept a grope.

I'll just say this:

This will be the second straight year I've eshewed flying in favor of the train.

Buying tickets for next summer at the same time this year as last year, for travel at the same time as last year.

For those who are unaware, Amtrak (like the airlines) uses fare bucket pricing - the more seats/rooms already gone, the higher the price.

And the prices this year, are a LOT higher.

Wonder what that means?

Also use this thread to determine which airports have the devices, so you can avoid letting our screening clerks, and their friends see you naked

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-o-scopes.html

It is LAX and they do have . Plus people in that airport are known for being rude.

They will not see me naked or touch me.
I rather strip in public and go to jail to make my point.

I have 4 daughter and 2 sons.
All adult.
But if this takes what it will take to protect them I will.

I will not fly to Sweden and visit my elderly mom and family until this is over.

What's amazing (and troublesome) in all these interactions between the groped & the gropers is that the gropers seem to have no concept of personal boundaries & decency. They are simply going to impose their will on the flying public, assuming they can get away with it. They have no conscience.

I wouldn't go that far. I'm sure TSA screeners, like slaughterhouse workers, go home each night and bounce their baby children on their knees. There are a few who enjoy it, but most are simply desensitized to the task at hand.

Well they're being paid SPECIFICALLY to troll the internet and post disinformation & argue. Are you really surprised? You'd have better luck trying to negotiate with a robot, which is basically all these shills are in the first place... just more strictly programmed.

Well put. And now children and teenagers, to whom we always emphasize not allowing others to touch their private areas, will also be subject to inappropriate touching by TSA government clerks. It is beyond disgusting.

Excuse me? Slaughterhouse work is a respectable profession. I like my rib eyes and pork chops. I have done my own slaughtering, and it is best left to the professionals, but it is respectable.

Unlike the.....oh, never mind.

Of course slaughterhouse work is respectable where TSA simply works tirelessly as a superb force-multiplier for the terrorists.

However, on the specific point of desensitization, I think the comparison is apt.

Perhaps some clarification of the two new pat-down procedures are in order?

A screener on Fark.com posted this last week, and I'm still trying to get clarification if we can ask for the Alarm Resolution Pat Down to be done in public.


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Here's the dealeo, if you alarm the WTMD for whatever reason, hip or knee replacement ie, and you are unable to divest enuff metal to clear with any further passes, you are now a recipient for a Standard Pat Down.

We will pat down every inch of your bod and when we get to your mid section we will sliiiide a hand up your inner thigh til we "meet resistance" Exact wording.

Then, we swab our gloved hands and if they alarm, you then receive an "Alarm Resolution pat-down".

This is done by a Lead or a Sup. and is always done in a private screening area.
The only difference with this one is that when he/she gets to your "groin" area he/she is now going to turn his/her lil hands around and pass them over your "groin" area with the front of his/her hands 6 times. 3 across & 3 going down and then swab his/her hands again.

If they alarm again, well it gets a little gray after that.

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A union website has the following description:

Pat-Down Procedures

When conducting a standard pat down, a same-gender TSA screener will use a sliding method to verify external areas of the body for weapons or explosive materials. This process includes sliding his/her gloved hand up each leg until resistance is met. Additionally, the screener will slide his/her gloved hand across the groin and buttocks areas and under the breast area. If any anomalies are detected, the screener may resolve it by swiping inside the collar or waistband as necessary. Anything unusual detected during screening must be resolved. Resolution pat-down procedures will be utilized at this point. Private screening (upon request) is available to all passengers & crew members at any time in the screening process and will be utilized at all times when it is necessary to resolve an anomaly that is detected. If a resolution pat-down is necessary, two same-gender TSA screeners will be present and the individual being screened may bring a travel companion to the private screening area.

Eh? They boil their babies, and don't you dare tell me otherwise.

Like I said, I have done my own slaughtering, country hog killings are a big deal, I was never in need of desensitization. We learned that it is where we got our food. And I love bacon. And country ham.

I helped my aunt kill chickens. I will not describe the process at the fear of offending. It was what we did, if we wanted chicken to eat. I like pan fried chicken, too, but ham is better. And we got some really interesting pillow stuffing. Chicken feathers are not duck down but are a reasonable substitute in a pinch.

On the other hand, the hogs and the chickens did not seem to be cool with it.

It only requires desensitization if what your doing is clearly wrong, and you really know it, and it is necessary to overcome what the mind knows is wrong to live with your actions. Providing animal protein to nourish ones family is a natural and non-guilt producing act.