GUWonder

That -- outside of jails/prison -- most sexual assault in the US is committed by persons of the opposite sex?

sbrower

Actually, outside of jails, I think it is probably 99% by males? So maybe all patdowns should be done by females?

RosemaryT

Eyecue, your comments are foolhardy, pure and simple.

If you'd ask me to describe the kind of shoes this TSA guy was wearing or some inane detail such as that, yeah, I might have some trouble with that. But it was a man. That's a rock-solid memory. If I am "mis-remembering" this event - that I was frisked by a male TSO - then I shouldn't be wondering around in public alone.

Yeesh.

GUWonder

Will that lead to more happy endings?

Fredd

^ ^ With 55,840 posts, even so often the odds are that you'll come up with a gem.

oldjonesy

I thought that only same sex will conduct the pat down.

And I recall from one our or more rational resident TSO clerks that the patdown will NOT be palm but back of the hand only.

LAX

That pat-down has apparently been "enhanced" recently, which is what really infuriates me. Touching someone's private parts even with back of hand is inappropriate, can you imagine with palm?

LAX

BearX220

Take five minutes to scan this forum and you'll see that there is a LOT of front-of-the-hand, deliberately assaultive and humiliating patdown action going on. The stated goal of the new patdowns is to be so disturbing and invasive, passengers will opt for the Nude-o-Scopes in spite of the medical risks. Invasive front-of-the-hand explorations of your genitals have no security benefit. They are performed to upset and sicken you.

VonS

B.S. on that! Most women who have been sexually assaulted, and I do consider this sexual assault, remember the details for a very long time. Pray to God that no woman in your family is ever sexually assaulted.

neko

Umm, that is exactly what the statute of limitations does: It defines the date after which a person cannot be charged with a crime, because the passage of time has made it impossible to ensure a fair trial. Before that date, a person may be charged with a crime and stand trial, during which witnesses may testify under oath.

Of course, a prosecutor or jury can decide that delay has made evidence too weak to charge or convict someone; but until the statute of limitations expires, this is not assumed to be the case.

doober

As well, that assault impacts many areas of their psychological and physical well-being, often for the remainder of their lives.

ScatterX

Two simple questions for eyecue:

1) Is it possible that a huge governmental agency has employees that sometimes do not follow procedures?

2) Given that EVERY other governmental agency has had employees who are busted for porn, sexual misconduct/assault, theft, harassment, and similar events, isn't it likely that TSA has employees that would also do this?

Were you there? It seems your standard answer to every issue posed by anyone, anyplace, regarding anything is it did not happen. You offer nothing more than some sad BS about TSA procedures. Do you seriously expect us to believe that nobody is the TSA would EVER deviate from a procedure?

Please explain how any person can watch 40 cameras. Are these cameras connected to a digital video recorder? Do the people monitoring these cameras write down everything they see?

According to you, recollection of an event is impossible for the complainers (who only have to recall one event), but the TSA, on the other hand, is perfectly capable of recalling any event. In this case, they can recall something that happened to flash across one of 40 monitors in some office.

doober

If "the integrity of the witnesses (sic) memory after that long", how come there is no statute of limitations on murder charges? Here is just one example

http://wiki.ocregister.com/Orange_Co...y_James_Alcala

of a man who was convicted of murder 30 years prior based, in part on the testimony of a woman who was 12 years old at the time.

MikeMpls

And that's without advertising on gas pumps & pizza boxes!

Ayn R Key

What would you have him do?

Ask anyone who has ever studied the topic of police abuse (and abuse by wanna-be police like the TSA has) to tell you what happens the instant one of us mundanes touches the sacred body of a government enforcement agent.

So your defense is ... *drumroll* ... that TSOs always follow procedure!