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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by eyecue
Not at DEN. There have been at least 5 TSA people let go for things that the camera sees.
Was the DEN TSO who escorted me out of the line one of them? Did the cameras see how I was treated?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
I wonder how long it will be before folks start going through the checkpoint after about 3 days without shower or deoderant...
Never, I hope.

Just because someone wants to harass the TSO, I don't think it's a reason to smell like the third day of a 4-day science fiction convention...it's not fair to the rest of the pax in line.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 3:54 pm
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Originally Posted by eyecue
Not at DEN. There have been at least 5 TSA people let go for things that the camera sees.
How could that be? They had background checks, were given shiny badges to wear and everything.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by N965VJ
How could that be? They had background checks, were given shiny badges to wear and everything.
That has always seemed kind of inconsistent to me. Give a TSO a low-level clearance and he/she has virtually unfettered access to the secure areas. If the TSO does turn out to be untrustworthy, TSA points out (correctly) that previous behavior is no guarantee of future behavior.

Give someone else (military, government contractor, etc) a much higher clearance level and they aren't allowed the same privileges at the airport.

I don't believe there's something unique or different about the background check that a TSO gets that is specifically oriented towards ensuring that he/she is a died-in-the-wool trustworthy patriot.

I do know when we had clearances at work, they were regularly reviewed and 'updated' as necessary. Rare, but once in a while, someone's clearance didn't pass and was rescinded. (In one instance, we suspected the guy's bad divorce and subsequent heavy gambling and financial woes may have been the reason).

Do TSO clearances get routinely reviewed?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by FXWizard
Never, I hope.

Just because someone wants to harass the TSO, I don't think it's a reason to smell like the third day of a 4-day science fiction convention...it's not fair to the rest of the pax in line.
Not to worry, just shower at the Admiral's club.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by chollie
Do TSO clearances get routinely reviewed?
One screener posted here not too long ago that a byproduct of the TSA sharing "Secret" intelligence reports was that quite a few were found to have skeletons in their closets after the much more detailed background checks were completed. So yes, more Bad Apples have been shown the door. ^
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 5:51 pm
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Last week we had ZERO complaints. I have performed about 20 a week and no one is getting really pissed about it. I hear the famed "anything to make us safe" A LOT
I have received one pat down since TSA. From that experience, and watching others that have been patted down, I would say about 1% do it correctly... those that probably had law enforcement training.

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They use that software that the crime shows use that lets them enhance the resolution of a grainy reflection in an irregular surface to the point that they can read the 4 point font on the piece of paper in your shirt pocket.
Be surprised at what kind of view you can get with a security camera. At my old office, you could zoom in on a computer screen about 50 feet away and read a word document at 12pt. Of course, those cameras ran about $2200 a piece!

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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by eyecue
Not at DEN. There have been at least 5 TSA people let go for things that the camera sees.
This is good to hear
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by chollie
Funny thing about those complaint cards. They could also be used for compliments - if they could be found.

I transited a checkpoint Sunday AM. The TSO on the other side of the belt who was rearranging everything said 'thank you' to me because my kippie bag was out and sitting on top of my rollaboard. I said, 'Thanks for not barking. I'd put in a compliment card, but I don't see any around and I don't have time to wait for a supervisor to get me one. Maybe next time'.

It's true - I did appreciate not being barked at, and there were no compliment cards anywhere to be seen. He said he could get a supervisor down 'really quick', but I said I had to catch my flight, couldn't wait (also true).

Besides, I know the supervisor will insist on seeing my ID before giving me a form. Are they readily available at your checkpoint, eyecue?
The white 3x5 cards with the narrative section on the back and the 800 number on them? Yeah we have them. I have some in my pocket and some at the supervisor podium

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Or have a "leaking" problem . Especially when they get afraid/nerveus.
IF that happens, they will not get screened. I have seen that happen.

Originally Posted by debua1k
Was the DEN TSO who escorted me out of the line one of them? Did the cameras see how I was treated?
I am not sure that we ever sorted out who that was.

Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
This is juvenile, but I found it really funny when someone ripped one in a courtroom just as the plaintiff's attorney had asked a question to witness for defendent. The perp was never located, but I noticed that the witness was doing all he could to avoid losing it on the stand.

I wonder how long it will be before folks start going through the checkpoint after about 3 days without shower or deoderant...
There are some GAWD awful smelly people and I wonder who or rather pity those that have to sit next to them. I have had people break wind on me when conducting screening. I swear they hold it on purpose.

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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 6:51 pm
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Originally Posted by eyecue
I am not sure that we ever sorted out who that was.
Translation for debua1k: no, they weren't on that day.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 7:15 pm
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Originally Posted by eyecue
Last week we had ZERO complaints. I have performed about 20 a week and no one is getting really pissed about it. I hear the famed "anything to make us safe" A LOT
I'm just curious, what do you think when they say the famed "anything to make us safe"?
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 7:26 pm
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Saw a woman with shoulder-length hair today at Denver get a brushing of her hair by a TSAer's hands next to one of the strip search machines.
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 7:38 pm
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Saw a woman with shoulder-length hair today at Denver get a brushing of her hair by a TSAer's hands next to one of the strip search machines.
Yeah the hair is part of the new stuff.

Originally Posted by oldjonesy
I'm just curious, what do you think when they say the famed "anything to make us safe"?
1. Ignorance is bliss?
2. IF only you knew?

No wait those are FT slogans. I can tell they dont hang out here. I have only met one FT'er, he had a big yellow tag on his roller bag that says "Flyertalk."
I spoke to him briefly but he did not hang out in this topic.

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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 7:49 pm
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Is John Waters running TSA?

Originally Posted by eyecue
Yeah the hair is part of the new stuff.
Must be looking for that bomb in Velma Von Tussle's tower-like hairdo....
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Old Oct 19, 2010 | 8:05 pm
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Originally Posted by eyecue
1. Ignorance is bliss?
2. IF only you knew?

No wait those are FT slogans. I can tell they dont hang out here. I have only met one FT'er, he had a big yellow tag on his roller bag that says "Flyertalk."
I spoke to him briefly but he did not hang out in this topic.
Yeah that's great. But what is your opinion of the "anything to keep us safe" crowd? Do you roll your eyes at it or do you agree, or any other response?

Originally Posted by oldjonesy
Yeah that's great. But what is your opinion of the "anything to keep us safe" crowd? Do you roll your eyes at it or do you agree, or any other response?
any response, hello?

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