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PAT Downs
Last week we had ZERO complaints. I have performed about 20 a week and no one is getting really pissed about it. I hear the famed "anything to make us safe" A LOT
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Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14969367)
Last week we had ZERO complaints. I have performed about 20 a week and no one is getting really pissed about it. I hear the famed "anything to make us safe" A LOT
I'm still not sure what I think about AIT, and the accompanying patdowns. But if I decide I disagree, the last thing I'm going to do is complain about it at the checkpoint. In that environment, TSA has the upper hand. All I'm saying is don't interpret the lack of complaints as an endorsement of TSA policies. Silence is simply silence; it neither shows agreement nor disagreement. |
Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 14969393)
But if I decide I disagree, the last thing I'm going to do is complain about it at the checkpoint.
It's our word against the screening clerks.. |
Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14969367)
Last week we had ZERO complaints. I have performed about 20 a week and no one is getting really pissed about it. I hear the famed "anything to make us safe" A LOT
If your boss walked up and decided to use you to demo an open-palm package-n-all grope for your fellow workers, are you going to let him see that it's not your idea of fun? A lot of the folks you are frisking probably can't wait to get it over with so they can get to a restroom and wash up. You know, sort of that unpleasant sensation you feel after your doctor has given you an up-close-and-personal examination. You just want to get the hell out of there. And believe it or not, I have met a surprising number of folks who don't complain because 1) they don't think it will do any good and 2) they worry that their name will end up on a list and they'll be subject to future harassment. Of course, there is the possibility that you follow your SOP and are professional and respectful. You know, you treat the pax you 'handle' kind of like you would treat your own grandpa if you were frisking him. Or your manager's son. |
Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 14969393)
And what would "getting really pissed about it" accomplish at a checkpoint?
I'm still not sure what I think about AIT, and the accompanying patdowns. But if I decide I disagree, the last thing I'm going to do is complain about it at the checkpoint. In that environment, TSA has the upper hand. All I'm saying is don't interpret the lack of complaints as an endorsement of TSA policies. Silence is simply silence; it neither shows agreement nor disagreement.
Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
(Post 14969410)
+1
It's our word against the screening clerks.. |
Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14969449)
Not with 40 plus cameras present
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Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14969449)
Not with 40 plus cameras present
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Originally Posted by FriendlySkies
(Post 14969458)
When a passenger has needed footage to prove that a screening clerk was in the wrong, when was it available? It seems that it has a habit of disappearing.
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Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14969367)
Last week we had ZERO complaints. I have performed about 20 a week and no one is getting really pissed about it. I hear the famed "anything to make us safe" A LOT
To test your theory, however, let's have the TSA hire an independent third party company that will hand out comment cards to travelers after they have to deal with the pat downs that specifically ask for their thoughts and views of the pat down experience anonymously. The card can then be dropped in the U.S. mail anywhere in the U.S. for delivery. Let's see what the results are. |
Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14969367)
Last week we had ZERO complaints. I have performed about 20 a week and no one is getting really pissed about it. I hear the famed "anything to make us safe" A LOT
About the only thing you'll see from me leaving the checkpoint is an angry scowl. |
Originally Posted by PhoenixRev
(Post 14969489)
Silence does not mean assent.
To test your theory, however, let's have the TSA hire an independent third party company that will hand out comment cards to travelers after they have to deal with the pat downs that specifically ask for their thoughts and views of the pat down experience anonymously. The card can then be dropped in the U.S. mail anywhere in the U.S. for delivery. Let's see what the results are. |
Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14969449)
Not with 40 plus cameras present
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Originally Posted by T-the-B
(Post 14969528)
Especially when those cameras never seem to have been working when the evidence doesn't support TSA's version of events.
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Funny thing about those complaint cards. They could also be used for compliments - if they could be found.
I transited a checkpoint Sunday AM. The TSO on the other side of the belt who was rearranging everything said 'thank you' to me because my kippie bag was out and sitting on top of my rollaboard. I said, 'Thanks for not barking. I'd put in a compliment card, but I don't see any around and I don't have time to wait for a supervisor to get me one. Maybe next time'. It's true - I did appreciate not being barked at, and there were no compliment cards anywhere to be seen. He said he could get a supervisor down 'really quick', but I said I had to catch my flight, couldn't wait (also true). Besides, I know the supervisor will insist on seeing my ID before giving me a form. Are they readily available at your checkpoint, eyecue? |
Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 14969367)
Last week we had ZERO complaints. I have performed about 20 a week and no one is getting really pissed about it. I hear the famed "anything to make us safe" A LOT
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