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Old Sep 30, 10, 1:07 pm   #1
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TSO "rubbing" my back!

On Tuesday I went thru IAH (concourse A) TSA checkpoint. Magnetometer not NudeOScope and I didn't set off any alarms nor was my briefcase questioned. As I exited the unit a TSO walked up behind me and ran both of his hands from my shoulders to my low back. It surprised me and I turned quickly around and said, "why did you do that?" He replied in a pleasant and laughing manner, "Washington has new requirements for us". He then turned to the gentleman next to me and did the same thing. I said, "you should consider changing gloves".

It was all too quick and surprising to even know it was coming.

Has anyone else had this happen?
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Old Sep 30, 10, 1:15 pm   #2
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On Tuesday I went thru IAH (concourse A) TSA checkpoint. Magnetometer not NudeOScope and I didn't set off any alarms nor was my briefcase questioned. As I exited the unit a TSO walked up behind me and ran both of his hands from my shoulders to my low back. It surprised me and I turned quickly around and said, "why did you do that?" He replied in a pleasant and laughing manner, "Washington has new requirements for us". He then turned to the gentleman next to me and did the same thing. I said, "you should consider changing gloves".

It was all too quick and surprising to even know it was coming.

Has anyone else had this happen?
Yes -- Just a few posts below yours: Pat downs at the metal detector, but not a full secondary?
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Old Sep 30, 10, 1:24 pm   #3
  
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Happened to me at BNA. It was weird.
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Old Sep 30, 10, 1:55 pm   #4
  
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On Tuesday I went thru IAH (concourse A) TSA checkpoint. Magnetometer not NudeOScope and I didn't set off any alarms nor was my briefcase questioned. As I exited the unit a TSO walked up behind me and ran both of his hands from my shoulders to my low back. It surprised me and I turned quickly around and said, "why did you do that?" He replied in a pleasant and laughing manner, "Washington has new requirements for us". He then turned to the gentleman next to me and did the same thing. I said, "you should consider changing gloves".

It was all too quick and surprising to even know it was coming.

Has anyone else had this happen?
Did he notify you prior to touching you?
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Old Sep 30, 10, 2:10 pm   #5
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Notification was simultaneous with the action. It literally startled me and I spun around quickly. He said something like, "I need to check your back"; however, I'm not exactly sure what he said and I felt blindsided. It was over as quick as it began!
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Lets hear from the TSO’s who post here on what is the policy on unannounced pat downs, or is that to SSI.

All one of these TSO’s has to do is press someone’s back who has back problems in the wrong place and they can send that person right to the hospital, and followed up by a major lawsuit

In the full pat downs, they are required to ask you if you have any sensitive areas, but now they can sneak up on you and grope you without any warning

Also I agree about the gloves.

So lets hear from the TSO’s on this one.

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Old Sep 30, 10, 2:18 pm   #7
  
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Lets hear from the TSO’s who post here on what is the policy on unannounced pat downs, or is that to SSI.

All one of these TSO’s has to do is press someone’s back who has back problems in the wrong place and they can send that person right to the hospital, and followed up by a major lawsuit

In the full pat downs, they are required to ask you if you have any sensitive areas, but now they can sneak up on you and grope you without any warning

Also I agree about the gloves.

So lets hear from the TSO’s on this one.

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Old Sep 30, 10, 4:44 pm   #8
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Don't get why they wouldn't want to change gloves. I keep hearing annoucements at ORD about washing your hands when you sneeze or touch certain things. For all they know, somebody could be wearing very dirty clothing, infested with some sort of bugs. Great, looks like they've just spread it to 50 pax...

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Old Sep 30, 10, 4:49 pm   #9
  
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Oh this will be good...i'm trained in self defense and i could so see this going so very very wrong....
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Old Sep 30, 10, 4:50 pm   #10
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They are testing new passenger training.

"We will put our hands on you at any time, for any reason, with or without notice or explanation. Entering the airport (or bus station or train station or driving down the highway in Atlanta) will constitute implied consent to anything that we chose to do. Failure to comply will result in LEO action. In the future, TSOs will be armed LEOs and won't have to wait around for those not-always-cooperative real LEOs."
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Old Sep 30, 10, 5:59 pm   #11
  
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On Tuesday I went thru IAH (concourse A) TSA checkpoint. Magnetometer not NudeOScope and I didn't set off any alarms nor was my briefcase questioned. As I exited the unit a TSO walked up behind me and ran both of his hands from my shoulders to my low back. It surprised me and I turned quickly around and said, "why did you do that?" He replied in a pleasant and laughing manner, "Washington has new requirements for us". He then turned to the gentleman next to me and did the same thing. I said, "you should consider changing gloves".

It was all too quick and surprising to even know it was coming.

Has anyone else had this happen?
At least he 'ran' his hands down from your shoulders
I guess they are prepping for when they just put there hands on your shoulders and bark in your ear bend over.
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Old Sep 30, 10, 6:03 pm   #12
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They better not try this on people with PTSD. I recall spending a good bit of time with one friend a couple months after he returned from active duty in Vietnam, and watching his behaviors and how he responded to surprises... a TSO could get seriously injured.
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Old Sep 30, 10, 6:13 pm   #13
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Lets hear from the TSO’s who post here on what is the policy on unannounced pat downs, or is that to SSI.
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Old Sep 30, 10, 6:15 pm   #14
  
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Old Sep 30, 10, 6:18 pm   #15
  
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Anyone sneaking up behind me would have a serious problem.

I would get so startled that I would smack them.

I would think assult. And I do think that is a normal reaction with most people.
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