You thought Kip was an idiot, Try this one
Mar 25, 2010, 11:37 pm
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Apologists for stupidity in the name of "security" will have trouble recognizing that Harding is acting as you describe or even how Hardin'gs material interests of a financial nature may impair his ability to be objective enough to admit that voodoo "security" is what he is peddling.
Mar 25, 2010, 11:40 pm
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Trying to hide behind the skirt of civil liberties dont get you a free pass...let the courts get to the bottom of it.
Mar 25, 2010, 11:43 pm
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"We should move even closer to an Israeli model where there's more engagement with passengers," Harding said, according to Reuters. "I think that increases the layers and pushes the layers out." Even though the program has already deployed behavior detection officers at selected airports around the country, there have been conflicting claims about its efficacy. From January 2006 to November 2009, more than 232,000 people were referred for additional screening at the security checkpoint by behavior detection officers, according to numbers TSA provided to AOL News. Of those, 1,710 were eventually arrested and more than 2,400 were "referred for continued investigation."
Wow, 1700 arrests. I guess Harding isnt such the idiot?
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...nsion/19412523
Wow, 1700 arrests. I guess Harding isnt such the idiot?
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...nsion/19412523
Mar 25, 2010, 11:44 pm
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Apologists for stupidity in the name of "security" will have trouble recognizing that Harding is acting as you describe or even how Hardin'gs material interests of a financial nature may impair his ability to be objective enough to admit that voodoo "security" is what he is peddling.
Mar 25, 2010, 11:44 pm
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Who really cares, besides you? If they were drug mules, dead beat dads, bail jumpers or tax evaders, that applies to my ROI for having a TSA. I dont give a rats behind if they were caught by a park ranger, a border agent, or a TSO, they were caught.
Trying to hide behind the skirt of civil liberties dont get you a free pass...let the courts get to the bottom of it.
Trying to hide behind the skirt of civil liberties dont get you a free pass...let the courts get to the bottom of it.
Voodoo "security" is what BDOs practice.
Who knows why you bring up racism here. Is it something close to your heart?
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Mar 25, 2010, 11:51 pm
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Without personalizing the discussion much more, I suggest my argument is clear since page 1. I would like to see how this plays out a few more days before publicly sinking the dude.
I'm not "off-handedly" (sic) rejecting this "military hero" without cause -- I'm doubting his intelligence and/or ability to be objective given his material interests and the material interest of his favorites.
Voodoo "security" is what BDOs practice.
Who knows why you bring up racism here. Is it something close to your heart?
Voodoo "security" is what BDOs practice.
Who knows why you bring up racism here. Is it something close to your heart?
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Mar 25, 2010, 11:57 pm
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I won't shed any tears if his career goes nowhere from here.
You are entitled to hear whatever you wish to hear and fail to hear or pretend to fail to hear whatever you wish.
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How much research beyond the sound bites listed have you invested in learning his true position? Are you "official bio" deep in his credentials? Or maybe it is what you read in blogs and FT? What about the things he has done up to 2001 in the military, and his activities after forming his company in 2003?
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Mar 26, 2010, 12:01 am
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Mar 26, 2010, 12:05 am
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I have to agree with DevilDog, your opinion doesnt matter in the least.
Mar 26, 2010, 12:10 am
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As is to be expected. Some people only seek confirmation, while others don't care about confirmation or not -- especially given the "security" stupidity is continuing because kool-aid drinking is par for the TSA course.
Mar 26, 2010, 12:19 am
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"We should move even closer to an Israeli model where there's more engagement with passengers," Harding said, according to Reuters. "I think that increases the layers and pushes the layers out." Even though the program has already deployed behavior detection officers at selected airports around the country, there have been conflicting claims about its efficacy. From January 2006 to November 2009, more than 232,000 people were referred for additional screening at the security checkpoint by behavior detection officers, according to numbers TSA provided to AOL News. Of those, 1,710 were eventually arrested and more than 2,400 were "referred for continued investigation."
Wow, 1700 arrests. I guess Harding isnt such the idiot?
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...nsion/19412523
Wow, 1700 arrests. I guess Harding isnt such the idiot?
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/articl...nsion/19412523
Of those, 232,000 people were "spotted", or .0083% of all passengers.
Of those, 232,2000, 1710 were arrested (not necessarily convicted), or .7% of those spotted.
Total is .00006% success rate.
Ya, that sounds like a great use of resources.
Now tell me, with numbers like that, how does that compare with random chance? I'm sure out of 2.8 billion people, you could find that many people arrestable.
On top of that, this includes people like college kids with fake IDs, etc. Not exactly real threats to society.
You may think that's a good thing, but I'd much rather TSA stick to the constitution and let the LEOs do their job. TSA is not supposed to be a dragnet - the ends don't justify the means.
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You are entitled to hear whatever you wish to hear and fail to hear or pretend to fail to hear whatever you wish.
My positions are generally well-informed, and this is no exception.[/QUOTE]
OMG, I agree, I must bow down in honor. Naaah, not today, not on this silly topic.
I have to agree with DevilDog, your opinion doesnt matter in the least.
My positions are generally well-informed, and this is no exception.
[/QUOTE]OMG, I agree, I must bow down in honor. Naaah, not today, not on this silly topic.
I have to agree with DevilDog, your opinion doesnt matter in the least.
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Mar 26, 2010, 12:35 am
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Fascists don't routinely buy that -- instead, the fascism espoused in living memory was routinely resting upon a foundation of the ends supposedly justifying the means.
Mar 26, 2010, 1:12 am
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