Suspicious behavior
Jan 28, 2010 | 5:33 pm
#16
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What a despicable and shameful reply. Typical TSA garbage. Is this the training TSA gives? Shame on a TSA employee you for having an attitude like this.
It's a shame that we have people with this attitude living in this country.
We'll all be metter off if suc people were sent off to G'tmo,
What makes you think I am brown? Do you think only a brown man could have empathy for another brown man? That's an attitude of an ignorant person.
In any case, who are you to tell me to stay home.
It's a shame that we have people with this attitude living in this country.
We'll all be metter off if suc people were sent off to G'tmo,
What makes you think I am brown? Do you think only a brown man could have empathy for another brown man? That's an attitude of an ignorant person.
In any case, who are you to tell me to stay home.
that was at PDX a few years ago
Jan 28, 2010 | 6:22 pm
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Now this is called going beyond the call of duty. After 9/11 every one was asking why do they hate us? This attitude is the answer.
LEO forces in general attract people who are on a power trip, but TSA has attracted the worst kind.
Jan 28, 2010 | 6:26 pm
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Here is your answer
According to US Customs, suspicious activity included:
- Traveling with or without baggage
- Traveling in the front, middle, or aft section of the plane
- Traveling alone or with other passengers
- Checking in early, on time, or late
- Being the first to get off the plane, the last to get off the plane, or somewhere in the middle
- Traveling with or without baggage
- Traveling in the front, middle, or aft section of the plane
- Traveling alone or with other passengers
- Checking in early, on time, or late
- Being the first to get off the plane, the last to get off the plane, or somewhere in the middle
What constitutes a suspicious behavior?
1. Leaving package/luggage unattended.
2. Carrying any prohibited items such as firearms/knife etc.
3. Use of threatening language or gestures towards crew/officials.
4. Vandalizing property in order to atrract/dicert attention.
5. Attempting to gain access to restricted areas.
6. Taking pictures/videos of restricted areas or general public/traffic
I am not sure how speaking in foreign language, wearing specific article of clothing, use of restroom, taking pictures of family in the airport, looking outside plane window to see "sights, etc could constitute suspicious behavior.
2. Carrying any prohibited items such as firearms/knife etc.
3. Use of threatening language or gestures towards crew/officials.
4. Vandalizing property in order to atrract/dicert attention.
5. Attempting to gain access to restricted areas.
6. Taking pictures/videos of restricted areas or general public/traffic
Jan 28, 2010 | 6:52 pm
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That isn't just why "they" hate us. It is why "we" despise cops and pretend cops like the TSA.
Jan 28, 2010 | 6:56 pm
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Jan 28, 2010 | 7:14 pm
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BINGO. Passengers thought to behaving suspiciously because they were speaking in a foreign language, wearing a turban or some such thing, going to the lav, or looking out the window and pointing at the Statue of Liberty are always brown skinned, never white or black. When it comes to travelling by air, this group is unfairly penalised. Yet TSA claims there is no profiling. WHat do they take us for?
He probably expected others, especially bigots who clamour for racial/ethnic profiling, to join him in intimidating brown people. There is none in this thread who shares his view. ^^^^^
Last edited by Yaatri; Jan 28, 2010 at 7:20 pm
Jan 28, 2010 | 7:17 pm
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BINGO. Passengers thought to behaving suspiciously because they were speaking in a foreign language, wearing a turban or some such thing, going to the lav, or looking out the window and pointing at the Statue of Liberty are always brown skinned, never white or black. When it comes to travelling by air, this group is unfairly penalised. Yet TSA claims there is no profiling. WHat do they take us for?
Jan 28, 2010 | 7:58 pm
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What constitutes a suspicious behavior?
1. Leaving package/luggage unattended.
2. Carrying any prohibited items such as firearms/knife etc.
3. Use of threatening language or gestures towards crew/officials.
4. Vandalizing property in order to atrract/dicert attention.
5. Attempting to gain access to restricted areas.
6. Taking pictures/videos of restricted areas or general public/traffic
I am not sure how speaking in foreign language, wearing specific article of clothing, use of restroom, taking pictures of family in the airport, looking outside plane window to see "sights, etc could constitute suspicious behavior.
1. Leaving package/luggage unattended.
2. Carrying any prohibited items such as firearms/knife etc.
3. Use of threatening language or gestures towards crew/officials.
4. Vandalizing property in order to atrract/dicert attention.
5. Attempting to gain access to restricted areas.
6. Taking pictures/videos of restricted areas or general public/traffic
I am not sure how speaking in foreign language, wearing specific article of clothing, use of restroom, taking pictures of family in the airport, looking outside plane window to see "sights, etc could constitute suspicious behavior.
Flying while excessively brown
Flying while wearing funny clothes
Non christian praying
Just some of the things deemed suspicious
Jan 28, 2010 | 8:03 pm
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The chief problem, as Schneier points out, is that many people confuse "suspicious" with "unusual". "Unusual" is an easier word to define: anything that doesn't normally happen within the scope of the life experience of the observer.
Usually, things that are "suspicious" are "unusual". However, things that are unusual aren't inherently suspicious. Being "suspicious" requires the ability to assess risk and threat: a property which people are notoriously bad at, unless specifically trained. And most of us (myself included) aren't trained in that regard.
Usually, things that are "suspicious" are "unusual". However, things that are unusual aren't inherently suspicious. Being "suspicious" requires the ability to assess risk and threat: a property which people are notoriously bad at, unless specifically trained. And most of us (myself included) aren't trained in that regard.
Jan 29, 2010 | 12:58 am
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What an awesome response. Blacks have a hard time getting a fair shake when they are climbing the corporate ladder. Would you recommend they just stay home as well?
Ironically I'm former conservative-cum-libertarian who would argue against most forms of affirmative action and most race-based policies, however, I find this "war-on-brown" we find ourselves in to be not only sickening but also something that is destroying what it means to be an American. If someone like me has this strong of a reaction, I can only wonder how my friends further left feel.
A truly disgusting comment.
Ironically I'm former conservative-cum-libertarian who would argue against most forms of affirmative action and most race-based policies, however, I find this "war-on-brown" we find ourselves in to be not only sickening but also something that is destroying what it means to be an American. If someone like me has this strong of a reaction, I can only wonder how my friends further left feel.
A truly disgusting comment.
Jan 29, 2010 | 1:13 am
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I would like to highlight this for all to see the bigotry displayed in TSAdude's reply. Infortunatedly there is no dirth of such people in TSA. If TSA had a shred of credibility integrity or wished to serve the purpose that it claims to serve, it would not tolerate such attitude, which, I am sad to say, is not unique to this poster.
He probably expected others, especially bigots who clamour for racial/ethnic profiling, to join him in intimidating brown people. There is none in this thread who shares his view. ^^^^^
He probably expected others, especially bigots who clamour for racial/ethnic profiling, to join him in intimidating brown people. There is none in this thread who shares his view. ^^^^^
Last edited by tsadude1; Jan 29, 2010 at 1:18 am
Jan 29, 2010 | 1:13 am
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Doesn't the SOP say photography of checkpoints is perfectly legal, with the exception of the X-ray monitors?