Flew private.. after their 22 hour delay!..compensation for a $45K flight?
Feb 11, 2011, 9:26 am
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While I enjoyed the back-handed brag post about being able to afford a $45K flight, I am going to suggest that most folks who experience delays/issue on $45K jaunts on private jets could just as well ask their lawyers to handle the matter...rather than asking for free information and speculation on a public website. Just a wild guess. I think you are going to have to allow the friend to figure this out for himself, since he is the one with access to contract, lawyers, and so on.
Feb 11, 2011, 2:04 pm
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Feb 11, 2011, 2:53 pm
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Not being the client, you also don't have any claim to compensation. Clearly whomever was the client should be asking for compensation. It feels like we're missing some of the details here.
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Feb 11, 2011, 3:11 pm
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Sounds like a great lose/lose situation, for want of an hour's earlier phone call 
The operator dispatched 3 planes, so they've lost money on this operation. The client didn't get a ride for 22 hours. All the causes were somewhat avoidable, hence the frustration. Moral of the story: you pays your money, take your chances, when dealing with privately owned planes and charters (to a lesser extent).
Airlines provide a much higher level of service in terms of mission capability (on time arrival) compared to private aviation. Of course the Netjets et al sales brochures don't highlight that statistic. What you do get is convenience (flights to/from airports that airlines dont serve) and some schedule flexibility. What you give up are reliability and comfort (unless you have a G5).
The operator dispatched 3 planes, so they've lost money on this operation. The client didn't get a ride for 22 hours. All the causes were somewhat avoidable, hence the frustration. Moral of the story: you pays your money, take your chances, when dealing with privately owned planes and charters (to a lesser extent).
Airlines provide a much higher level of service in terms of mission capability (on time arrival) compared to private aviation. Of course the Netjets et al sales brochures don't highlight that statistic. What you do get is convenience (flights to/from airports that airlines dont serve) and some schedule flexibility. What you give up are reliability and comfort (unless you have a G5).
Feb 11, 2011, 3:11 pm
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Feb 11, 2011, 3:16 pm
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sure doesnt seem good from a maintenance and operations standpoint.
while i was never interested in fractional share, this makes me inclined to skip charter/fractional cards too. and will certainly carefully examine on demand charter terms.
gotta love all the horribly un-FT like posts.
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http://www.shaircraft.com/home/index.shtml
http://www.shaircraft.com/forum/index.shtml
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while i was never interested in fractional share, this makes me inclined to skip charter/fractional cards too. and will certainly carefully examine on demand charter terms.
gotta love all the horribly un-FT like posts.
FYI >
http://www.shaircraft.com/home/index.shtml
http://www.shaircraft.com/forum/index.shtml
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...scussions.html
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Feb 11, 2011, 4:01 pm
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Flew private.. after their 22 hour delay!..compensation for a $45K flight?
Feb 11, 2011, 8:06 pm
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I must also say that if the flight cost you $45k, you have enough money already to not worry about "compensation". Who cares about $45k if you have millions in the bank and can afford private jet flights to Mexico.
And I highly doubt the private jet company you are flying with cares about compensation either. It's just part of the deal with being rich.
Although it may sound like I'm jealous, I'm not. I'm just being realistic. If I had $45k to blow on a private jet I would just say to myself "well, time to switch to a different private jet service next time".
You're more pissed off about the plane being late and want to financially "hurt" the company to make you feel better. Financial compensation really won't make you feel any better about the experience because you already have money.
Feb 11, 2011, 8:52 pm
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Feb 11, 2011, 8:53 pm
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I agree with this statement.
I must also say that if the flight cost you $45k, you have enough money already to not worry about "compensation". Who cares about $45k if you have millions in the bank and can afford private jet flights to Mexico.
And I highly doubt the private jet company you are flying with cares about compensation either. It's just part of the deal with being rich.
Although it may sound like I'm jealous, I'm not. I'm just being realistic. If I had $45k to blow on a private jet I would just say to myself "well, time to switch to a different private jet service next time".
You're more pissed off about the plane being late and want to financially "hurt" the company to make you feel better. Financial compensation really won't make you feel any better about the experience because you already have money.
I must also say that if the flight cost you $45k, you have enough money already to not worry about "compensation". Who cares about $45k if you have millions in the bank and can afford private jet flights to Mexico.
And I highly doubt the private jet company you are flying with cares about compensation either. It's just part of the deal with being rich.
Although it may sound like I'm jealous, I'm not. I'm just being realistic. If I had $45k to blow on a private jet I would just say to myself "well, time to switch to a different private jet service next time".
You're more pissed off about the plane being late and want to financially "hurt" the company to make you feel better. Financial compensation really won't make you feel any better about the experience because you already have money.
Feb 12, 2011, 2:21 pm
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Planes going tech happens - no matter the operator.
But this is most surprising part to me:
It is astonishing that crew who presumably have a reasonable expectation that they may be required to travel abroad at short notice - even if not planned for that day - are not ready to go. In much the same way, I understand that many FAs who are scheduled to do a day's flying and be back home at night take an overnight bag with them, just in case they get stuck somewhere.
But this is most surprising part to me:
It is astonishing that crew who presumably have a reasonable expectation that they may be required to travel abroad at short notice - even if not planned for that day - are not ready to go. In much the same way, I understand that many FAs who are scheduled to do a day's flying and be back home at night take an overnight bag with them, just in case they get stuck somewhere.
Jul 13, 2011, 5:45 pm
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http://www.sherpareport.com/aircraft...ards-0711.html
your contract should specify how much credit you are given due to delays or missed flights that are caused by problems on the fractional or charter company's end
"Some contracts go further to make the customer an additional insured, and some contracts even have a breach of warranty provision and a waiver of subrogation clause," Burnett says.
"Some contracts go further to make the customer an additional insured, and some contracts even have a breach of warranty provision and a waiver of subrogation clause," Burnett says.