LAX to JNB on One World
May 8, 2009 | 12:03 pm
#1
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LAX to JNB on One World
Need some suggestions on how I can make this upcoming trip work out on a One World carrier as I don't wan to lose out on the miles.
My dilemma is that I have competing Star Alliance carriers that can get me to JNB from LAX for roughly 6K-7K, and that's business. I really want to make this work out so that I can find a One World carrier for something close to this price range, as all of my miles are with AA.
I've looked at CX, AA, BA, and even QF. All are pricing over 8K. BA and AA are the worst, nothing under 10K.
Any other options?
My dilemma is that I have competing Star Alliance carriers that can get me to JNB from LAX for roughly 6K-7K, and that's business. I really want to make this work out so that I can find a One World carrier for something close to this price range, as all of my miles are with AA.
I've looked at CX, AA, BA, and even QF. All are pricing over 8K. BA and AA are the worst, nothing under 10K.
Any other options?
May 8, 2009 | 12:10 pm
#2
Join Date: May 1998
Location: australia
Posts: 5,961
I don`t know your dates but a simple search on www.ita.com returned:
Los Angeles, CA to Johannesburg, South Africa: 10961 miles 43 hrs 10 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB7052 on a MD-80 (jet) in business class
(operated by American Airlines as Flight AA1868)
Departs Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Tue, June 30 7:10a 4 hrs 0 min
Arrives Chicago, IL (ORD) 1:10p
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in Chicago 3 hrs 30 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6274 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, lunch, movie)
Departs Chicago, IL (ORD) Tue, June 30 4:40p 8 hrs 0 min
Arrives Madrid, Spain (MAD) Wed, July 1 7:40a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in Madrid 17 hrs 50 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6051 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, dinner, movie)
Departs Madrid, Spain (MAD) Thur, July 2 1:30a 9 hrs 50 min
Arrives Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) 11:20a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Note: The flight from Chicago (ORD) to Madrid (MAD) is overnight.
Note: The flight from Madrid (MAD) to Johannesburg (JNB) is overnight.
Johannesburg, South Africa to Los Angeles, CA: 10961 miles 31 hrs 35 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6050 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, lunch, movie)
Departs Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) Mon, July 6 8:30p 10 hrs 0 min
Arrives Madrid, Spain (MAD) Tue, July 7 6:30a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A2) below
Layover in Madrid 5 hrs 25 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6275 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(lunch, snack, movie)
Departs Madrid, Spain (MAD) Tue, July 7 11:55a 9 hrs 20 min
Arrives Chicago, IL (ORD) 2:15p
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A2) below
Layover in Chicago 2 hrs 35 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB7076 on a Boeing 737 (jet) in business class
(operated by American Airlines as Flight AA557)
Departs Chicago, IL (ORD) Tue, July 7 4:50p 4 hrs 15 min
Arrives Los Angeles, CA (LAX) 7:05p
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A2) below
Note: The flight from Johannesburg (JNB) to Madrid (MAD) is overnight.
Note: You must change terminals in Chicago (ORD).
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Booking details
If you want to buy this ticket, contact the airline (Iberia Airlines: 1-800-772-4642, http://www.iberia.com/) or a travel agent. If you use a travel agent to buy this ticket:
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It is very important to use exactly the same booking codes and fare codes that we've used on this page in order to match the price we've found.
Fare (A1): IB LAXJNB IPRO1MUS fare (rules) , psgr type ADT $1923.50
Fare (A2): IB JNBLAX IPRO1MUS fare (rules) , psgr type ADT $1923.50
Tax: US International Departure Tax $16.10
Tax: US September 11th Security Fee $7.50
Tax: USDA APHIS Fee $5.00
Tax: US Immigration Fee $7.00
Tax: US Customs Fee $5.50
Tax: Spanish Airport Services Charge 15.86
Tax: Spanish Security Tax 3.64
Tax: US International Arrival Tax $16.10
Tax: IB YQ surcharge $224.00
Tax: South Africa Passenger Service Charge ZAR 156
Tax: South Africa Air Passenger Tax ZAR 120
Tax: South Africa Passenger Safety Charge ZAR 11
Tax: US Passenger Facility Charge $13.50
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Total for 1 adult passenger: $4202.20
Los Angeles, CA to Johannesburg, South Africa: 10961 miles 43 hrs 10 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB7052 on a MD-80 (jet) in business class
(operated by American Airlines as Flight AA1868)
Departs Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Tue, June 30 7:10a 4 hrs 0 min
Arrives Chicago, IL (ORD) 1:10p
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in Chicago 3 hrs 30 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6274 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, lunch, movie)
Departs Chicago, IL (ORD) Tue, June 30 4:40p 8 hrs 0 min
Arrives Madrid, Spain (MAD) Wed, July 1 7:40a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in Madrid 17 hrs 50 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6051 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, dinner, movie)
Departs Madrid, Spain (MAD) Thur, July 2 1:30a 9 hrs 50 min
Arrives Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) 11:20a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Note: The flight from Chicago (ORD) to Madrid (MAD) is overnight.
Note: The flight from Madrid (MAD) to Johannesburg (JNB) is overnight.
Johannesburg, South Africa to Los Angeles, CA: 10961 miles 31 hrs 35 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6050 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, lunch, movie)
Departs Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) Mon, July 6 8:30p 10 hrs 0 min
Arrives Madrid, Spain (MAD) Tue, July 7 6:30a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A2) below
Layover in Madrid 5 hrs 25 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6275 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(lunch, snack, movie)
Departs Madrid, Spain (MAD) Tue, July 7 11:55a 9 hrs 20 min
Arrives Chicago, IL (ORD) 2:15p
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A2) below
Layover in Chicago 2 hrs 35 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB7076 on a Boeing 737 (jet) in business class
(operated by American Airlines as Flight AA557)
Departs Chicago, IL (ORD) Tue, July 7 4:50p 4 hrs 15 min
Arrives Los Angeles, CA (LAX) 7:05p
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A2) below
Note: The flight from Johannesburg (JNB) to Madrid (MAD) is overnight.
Note: You must change terminals in Chicago (ORD).
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Booking details
If you want to buy this ticket, contact the airline (Iberia Airlines: 1-800-772-4642, http://www.iberia.com/) or a travel agent. If you use a travel agent to buy this ticket:
If your travel agent is online and has an e-mail address, e-mail this itinerary to them
If your travel agent is not online, print out this page and fax/give it to them
It is very important to use exactly the same booking codes and fare codes that we've used on this page in order to match the price we've found.
Fare (A1): IB LAXJNB IPRO1MUS fare (rules) , psgr type ADT $1923.50
Fare (A2): IB JNBLAX IPRO1MUS fare (rules) , psgr type ADT $1923.50
Tax: US International Departure Tax $16.10
Tax: US September 11th Security Fee $7.50
Tax: USDA APHIS Fee $5.00
Tax: US Immigration Fee $7.00
Tax: US Customs Fee $5.50
Tax: Spanish Airport Services Charge 15.86
Tax: Spanish Security Tax 3.64
Tax: US International Arrival Tax $16.10
Tax: IB YQ surcharge $224.00
Tax: South Africa Passenger Service Charge ZAR 156
Tax: South Africa Air Passenger Tax ZAR 120
Tax: South Africa Passenger Safety Charge ZAR 11
Tax: US Passenger Facility Charge $13.50
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Total for 1 adult passenger: $4202.20
May 8, 2009 | 12:17 pm
#3
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ita.com? That site came back with an audio/visual solutions company.
My departure date is flexible, evening of May 14 or anytime on the 15th. I just need to be in JNB by the morning of the 17th.
For the return, I can leave late evening on the 29th of May or anytime on the 30th.
My departure date is flexible, evening of May 14 or anytime on the 15th. I just need to be in JNB by the morning of the 17th.
For the return, I can leave late evening on the 29th of May or anytime on the 30th.
May 8, 2009 | 12:31 pm
#4
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Have a look at LAX AA YYZ BA LHR BA JNB and v.v.
I can see an I fare from Toronto to JNB on BA for US $6900 and change, and you could fly Y to YYZ on AA and as an EXP (probably) get upgraded. Full AA miles over the pond, too, as you're flying from Canada.
Might also depend on your travel dates, too. Do you have any other travel planned to Europe or Asia? If so, then RTW or circle products can be purchased there for way less $$ than originating in the USA.
Another thought - if you're LA based (don't say) and have (and you should) an AS account, then you could fly on Delta from NYC and book the miles to AS, then redeem them on any number of AA partners, including AA itself.
Editing - missed the previous post with dates.
The Iberia fare is available, or one via NYC for $1000 more; however IB doesn't fly the JNB route every day, so you might need to come back on the 31st instead. Also their flight leaving MAD arrives at JNB right around noon, so if that doesn't work on your schedule it'll cost. However, if the price difference is a couple thousand bucks each way, maybe it's worth it to juggle your work schedule a little if you can.
It's www.itasoftware.com. It's well worth your time to get familiar with this invaluable site.
I can see an I fare from Toronto to JNB on BA for US $6900 and change, and you could fly Y to YYZ on AA and as an EXP (probably) get upgraded. Full AA miles over the pond, too, as you're flying from Canada.
Might also depend on your travel dates, too. Do you have any other travel planned to Europe or Asia? If so, then RTW or circle products can be purchased there for way less $$ than originating in the USA.
Another thought - if you're LA based (don't say) and have (and you should) an AS account, then you could fly on Delta from NYC and book the miles to AS, then redeem them on any number of AA partners, including AA itself.
Editing - missed the previous post with dates.
The Iberia fare is available, or one via NYC for $1000 more; however IB doesn't fly the JNB route every day, so you might need to come back on the 31st instead. Also their flight leaving MAD arrives at JNB right around noon, so if that doesn't work on your schedule it'll cost. However, if the price difference is a couple thousand bucks each way, maybe it's worth it to juggle your work schedule a little if you can.
It's www.itasoftware.com. It's well worth your time to get familiar with this invaluable site.
Last edited by Gardyloo; May 8, 2009 at 12:42 pm
May 8, 2009 | 12:33 pm
#5
Join Date: May 1998
Location: australia
Posts: 5,961
sorry for the shorthand - its www.itasoftware.com
May 8, 2009 | 12:39 pm
#6
Join Date: May 1998
Location: australia
Posts: 5,961
For your dates the fare is a bit higher as the return is in D rather than I
Los Angeles, CA to Johannesburg, South Africa: 11079 miles 43 hrs 20 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB7040 on a Boeing 767 (jet) in business class
(operated by American Airlines as Flight AA118)
(breakfast, food for purchase)
Departs Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Fri, May 15 7:00a 5 hrs 25 min
Arrives New York, NY (JFK) 3:25p
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in New York 2 hrs 35 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6250 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, lunch, movie)
Departs New York, NY (JFK) Fri, May 15 6:00p 7 hrs 10 min
Arrives Madrid, Spain (MAD) Sat, May 16 7:10a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in Madrid 18 hrs 20 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6051 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, dinner, movie)
Departs Madrid, Spain (MAD) Sun, May 17 1:30a 9 hrs 50 min
Arrives Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) 11:20a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Note: The flight from New York (JFK) to Madrid (MAD) is overnight.
Note: The flight from Madrid (MAD) to Johannesburg (JNB) is overnight.
Note: You must change terminals in New York (JFK).
Johannesburg, South Africa to Madrid, Spain: 5032 miles 10 hrs 0 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6050 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, lunch, movie)
Departs Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) Thur, May 28 8:30p 10 hrs 0 min
Arrives Madrid, Spain (MAD) Fri, May 29 6:30a
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A2) below
Note: The flight from Johannesburg (JNB) to Madrid (MAD) is overnight.
Madrid, Spain to Los Angeles, CA: 5929 miles 16 hrs 35 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6275 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(lunch, snack, movie)
Departs Madrid, Spain (MAD) Fri, May 29 11:55a 9 hrs 20 min
Arrives Chicago, IL (ORD) 2:15p
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A2) below
Layover in Chicago 2 hrs 45 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB7076 on a MD-80 (jet) in business class
(operated by American Airlines as Flight AA557)
(dinner, food for purchase)
Departs Chicago, IL (ORD) Fri, May 29 5:00p 4 hrs 30 min
Arrives Los Angeles, CA (LAX) 7:30p
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A2) below
Note: You must change terminals in Chicago (ORD).
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Booking details
If you want to buy this ticket, contact the airline (Iberia Airlines: 1-800-772-4642, http://www.iberia.com/) or a travel agent. If you use a travel agent to buy this ticket:
If your travel agent is online and has an e-mail address, e-mail this itinerary to them
If your travel agent is not online, print out this page and fax/give it to them
It is very important to use exactly the same booking codes and fare codes that we've used on this page in order to match the price we've found.
Fare (A1): IB LAXJNB IPRO1MUS fare (rules) , psgr type ADT $1923.50
Fare (A2): IB JNBLAX DSPCUS fare (rules) , psgr type ADT $3016.50
Tax: US International Departure Tax $16.10
Tax: IB YQ surcharge $224.00
Tax: South Africa Passenger Service Charge ZAR 156
Tax: South Africa Air Passenger Tax ZAR 120
Tax: South Africa Passenger Safety Charge ZAR 10
Tax: US September 11th Security Fee $7.50
Tax: USDA APHIS Fee $5.00
Tax: US Immigration Fee $7.00
Tax: US Customs Fee $5.50
Tax: Spanish Airport Services Charge 15.86
Tax: Spanish Security Tax 3.64
Tax: US International Arrival Tax $16.10
Tax: US Passenger Facility Charge $13.50
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Total for 1 adult passenger: $5295.10
Los Angeles, CA to Johannesburg, South Africa: 11079 miles 43 hrs 20 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB7040 on a Boeing 767 (jet) in business class
(operated by American Airlines as Flight AA118)
(breakfast, food for purchase)
Departs Los Angeles, CA (LAX) Fri, May 15 7:00a 5 hrs 25 min
Arrives New York, NY (JFK) 3:25p
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in New York 2 hrs 35 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6250 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, lunch, movie)
Departs New York, NY (JFK) Fri, May 15 6:00p 7 hrs 10 min
Arrives Madrid, Spain (MAD) Sat, May 16 7:10a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Layover in Madrid 18 hrs 20 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6051 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, dinner, movie)
Departs Madrid, Spain (MAD) Sun, May 17 1:30a 9 hrs 50 min
Arrives Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) 11:20a
1 adult in booking code I, covered by fare (A1) below
Note: The flight from New York (JFK) to Madrid (MAD) is overnight.
Note: The flight from Madrid (MAD) to Johannesburg (JNB) is overnight.
Note: You must change terminals in New York (JFK).
Johannesburg, South Africa to Madrid, Spain: 5032 miles 10 hrs 0 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6050 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(breakfast, lunch, movie)
Departs Johannesburg, South Africa (JNB) Thur, May 28 8:30p 10 hrs 0 min
Arrives Madrid, Spain (MAD) Fri, May 29 6:30a
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A2) below
Note: The flight from Johannesburg (JNB) to Madrid (MAD) is overnight.
Madrid, Spain to Los Angeles, CA: 5929 miles 16 hrs 35 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB6275 on an Airbus A340 (jet) in business class
(lunch, snack, movie)
Departs Madrid, Spain (MAD) Fri, May 29 11:55a 9 hrs 20 min
Arrives Chicago, IL (ORD) 2:15p
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A2) below
Layover in Chicago 2 hrs 45 min
Iberia Airlines Flight IB7076 on a MD-80 (jet) in business class
(operated by American Airlines as Flight AA557)
(dinner, food for purchase)
Departs Chicago, IL (ORD) Fri, May 29 5:00p 4 hrs 30 min
Arrives Los Angeles, CA (LAX) 7:30p
1 adult in booking code D, covered by fare (A2) below
Note: You must change terminals in Chicago (ORD).
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Booking details
If you want to buy this ticket, contact the airline (Iberia Airlines: 1-800-772-4642, http://www.iberia.com/) or a travel agent. If you use a travel agent to buy this ticket:
If your travel agent is online and has an e-mail address, e-mail this itinerary to them
If your travel agent is not online, print out this page and fax/give it to them
It is very important to use exactly the same booking codes and fare codes that we've used on this page in order to match the price we've found.
Fare (A1): IB LAXJNB IPRO1MUS fare (rules) , psgr type ADT $1923.50
Fare (A2): IB JNBLAX DSPCUS fare (rules) , psgr type ADT $3016.50
Tax: US International Departure Tax $16.10
Tax: IB YQ surcharge $224.00
Tax: South Africa Passenger Service Charge ZAR 156
Tax: South Africa Air Passenger Tax ZAR 120
Tax: South Africa Passenger Safety Charge ZAR 10
Tax: US September 11th Security Fee $7.50
Tax: USDA APHIS Fee $5.00
Tax: US Immigration Fee $7.00
Tax: US Customs Fee $5.50
Tax: Spanish Airport Services Charge 15.86
Tax: Spanish Security Tax 3.64
Tax: US International Arrival Tax $16.10
Tax: US Passenger Facility Charge $13.50
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Total for 1 adult passenger: $5295.10
May 8, 2009 | 1:00 pm
#8
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On iberia.com:
Total price $ 4,202.25
Total price $ 4,202.25
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Flight details Outbound - Friday, May 15, 2009 Los Angeles Washington Departure 9:05 / Los Angeles , Los Angeles International , Terminal 4 Arrival 16:55 / Washington , Dulles International Flight IB 7059 Non-Stop Airplane Boeing 757-200/300 Fare Business Reduced Change Changes permitted before flight departure with a penalty of 175$ Refund Refund permitted prior to the departure of the first sector with a penalty of 215$ Baggage Hand luggage: 1 item / 14 kg In hold: 3 pieces. Max:23kg/piece and 158 cm [+] information Washington Madrid Departure 20:50 / Washington , Dulles International Arrival 10:10 Day 16 / Madrid , Barajas , Terminal 4S Flight IB 6188 Non-Stop Airplane Airbus Industrie A340 Fare Business Reduced Change Changes permitted before flight departure with a penalty of 175$ Refund Refund permitted prior to the departure of the first sector with a penalty of 215$ Baggage Hand luggage: 1 item / 14 kg In hold: 3 pieces. Max:23kg/piece and 158 cm [+] information Madrid Johannesburg Departure 1:30 / Madrid , Barajas , Terminal 4S Arrival 11:20 / Johannesburg , O.R. Tambo International , Terminal A1 Flight IB 6051 Non-Stop Airplane Airbus Industrie A340 Fare Business Reduced Change Changes permitted before flight departure with a penalty of 175$ Refund Refund permitted prior to the departure of the first sector with a penalty of 215$ Baggage Hand luggage: 1 item / 14 kg In hold: 3 pieces. Max:23kg/piece and 158 cm [+] information Duration 41h: 15m -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Return - Sunday, May 31, 2009 Johannesburg Madrid Departure 20:30 / Johannesburg , O.R. Tambo International , Terminal A Arrival 6:30 Day 1 / Madrid , Barajas , Terminal 4S Flight IB 6050 Non-Stop Airplane Airbus Industrie A340 Fare Business Reduced Change Changes permitted before flight departure with a penalty of 175$ Refund Refund permitted prior to the departure of the first sector with a penalty of 215$ Baggage Hand luggage: 1 item / 14 kg In hold: 3 pieces. Max:23kg/piece and 158 cm [+] information Madrid Boston Departure 13:40 / Madrid , Barajas , Terminal 4S Arrival 15:35 / Boston , Logan International , Terminal E Flight IB 6165 Non-Stop Airplane Airbus Industrie A340 Fare Business Reduced Change Changes permitted before flight departure with a penalty of 175$ Refund Refund permitted prior to the departure of the first sector with a penalty of 215$ Baggage Hand luggage: 1 item / 14 kg In hold: 3 pieces. Max:23kg/piece and 158 cm [+] information Boston Los Angeles Departure 19:25 / Boston , Logan International , Terminal B Arrival 22:40 / Los Angeles , Los Angeles International , Terminal 4 Flight IB 7017 Non-Stop Airplane Boeing 757-200/300 Fare Business Reduced Change Changes permitted before flight departure with a penalty of 175$ Refund Refund permitted prior to the departure of the first sector with a penalty of 215$ Baggage Hand luggage: 1 item / 14 kg In hold: 3 pieces. Max:23kg/piece and 158 cm [+] information Duration 35h: 10m