QF flights LAX-JFK
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Probably a dumb question but searching through the FAQ didn't give me "the" answer:
If I fly QF SYD-LAX with a stopover for a couple of days, can I continue on to JFK via QF or do I need to take AA?
TIA
If I fly QF SYD-LAX with a stopover for a couple of days, can I continue on to JFK via QF or do I need to take AA?
TIA
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Not a dumb question at all.
You can take the QF flight from LAX-JFK (or JFK-LAX), provided you are connecting to or from a QF trans-Pacific flight, such as you are proposing with SYD-LAX.
I'm fairly sure it will need to be on the same itinerary or booking reference, but others may be able to confirm that.
You can take the QF flight from LAX-JFK (or JFK-LAX), provided you are connecting to or from a QF trans-Pacific flight, such as you are proposing with SYD-LAX.
I'm fairly sure it will need to be on the same itinerary or booking reference, but others may be able to confirm that.
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Not a dumb question at all.
You can take the QF flight from LAX-JFK (or JFK-LAX), provided you are connecting to or from a QF trans-Pacific flight, such as you are proposing with SYD-LAX.
I'm fairly sure it will need to be on the same itinerary or booking reference, but others may be able to confirm that.
You can take the QF flight from LAX-JFK (or JFK-LAX), provided you are connecting to or from a QF trans-Pacific flight, such as you are proposing with SYD-LAX.
I'm fairly sure it will need to be on the same itinerary or booking reference, but others may be able to confirm that.
Last edited by AAJetMan; Mar 20, 2009 at 8:21 pm
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Hi. If I fly SYD-JFK on an AONE5, can I then travel JFK-LAX on QF as my next step after a stopover in NYC? Or will QF in JFK deny me boarding at JFK?
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I would wager that they would. If you take LAX-JFK, your previous flight (stopover in LA is ok) needs to be Australia-LAX. Same goes with JFK-LAX, next flight would need to be operated by QF. I see how you think you might get around this - but it probably won't work.
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For their own reasons, Qantas take this one step further and require you to have a flight on Qantas to/from the USA (this means transpacific) on the same PNR to use QF107/QF108 between JFK/LAX.
So, Once you have booked that transpacific flight on Qantas, they will permit you to travel on QF107/QF108 again as long as it's in the same booking.This is not the case; as noted above Qantas require such a flight to be in the same PNR. So you could route SYD-JFK, JFK-LAX, LAX-LHR, LHR-SYD if you desired (or even SYD-LAX, LAX-JFK, JFK-LAX, LAX-LHR ...)
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Not a dumb question at all.
You can take the QF flight from LAX-JFK (or JFK-LAX), provided you are connecting to or from a QF trans-Pacific flight, such as you are proposing with SYD-LAX.
I'm fairly sure it will need to be on the same itinerary or booking reference, but others may be able to confirm that.
You can take the QF flight from LAX-JFK (or JFK-LAX), provided you are connecting to or from a QF trans-Pacific flight, such as you are proposing with SYD-LAX.
I'm fairly sure it will need to be on the same itinerary or booking reference, but others may be able to confirm that.
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QF has been forced to adopt this policy by the US DOT in response to repeated complaints filed by another airline (who will be unnamed but starts with U and ends with A). It is to preclude accidental cabotage. Note that the trans-pac flight on QF must precede the LAX-JFK sector (as the pax can change the routing and not fly QF trans-pac later). Technically the gov't rules allow QF to do anything they want as long as 100% guarantee that no cabotage occurs (with a big penalty for failure to comply). Your US tax dollars at work, keeping the world safe for airlines that start with U.
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So presumably on the reverse, where the pax first flies JFK-LAX and has a ticket for a later QF trans-pac flight, the pax could change the routing and not take the QF trans-pac flight. Would there be consequences then for QF I wonder?
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See the first paragraph of my post #7 of this thread.
As long as the itineray has an international flight and the PAX does indeed travel internationally within the itinerary then cabotage does not come into it in a final & legal sense.
As long as the itineray has an international flight and the PAX does indeed travel internationally within the itinerary then cabotage does not come into it in a final & legal sense.
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so is the general consensus that SYD-JFK//JFK-LAX on QF will be permited on an AONE5?
If I wont' be able to fly JFK-LAX on QF, then I'll just book JFK-YVR on CX instead.
thoughts?
If I wont' be able to fly JFK-LAX on QF, then I'll just book JFK-YVR on CX instead.
thoughts?
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Does this run afoul of the xONEx routing rules? You're only allowed one trans-con (JFK-LAX or LAX-JFK) under the rules. Do you get around this by having (the same) QF flight number all the way?
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good to go
I booked SYD-LAX on the A380 on QF with a 4 day layover in LAX then on to JFK on QF. No problemo!
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On an xONEx, one could fly QF107 SYD-JFK, and also have QF108 JFK-LAX in the same itinerary.

