QF flights LAX-JFK
 

Probably a dumb question but searching through the FAQ didn't give me "the" answer:

If I fly QF SYD-LAX with a stopover for a couple of days, can I continue on to JFK via QF or do I need to take AA?

TIA

Not a dumb question at all.

You can take the QF flight from LAX-JFK (or JFK-LAX), provided you are connecting to or from a QF trans-Pacific flight, such as you are proposing with SYD-LAX.

I'm fairly sure it will need to be on the same itinerary or booking reference, but others may be able to confirm that.

I just recently completed this routing.. Althought I love QF, I find the ability to have inflight internet remarkable on the AA transcon flights....

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Aone5: Syd-jfk//jfk-lax?
 

Hi. If I fly SYD-JFK on an AONE5, can I then travel JFK-LAX on QF as my next step after a stopover in NYC? Or will QF in JFK deny me boarding at JFK?

I would wager that they would. If you take LAX-JFK, your previous flight (stopover in LA is ok) needs to be Australia-LAX. Same goes with JFK-LAX, next flight would need to be operated by QF. I see how you think you might get around this - but it probably won't work.

Not at all; for cabotage regulations you only require an international flight on any carrier to/from the USA in your itinerary.

For their own reasons, Qantas take this one step further and require you to have a flight on Qantas to/from the USA (this means transpacific) on the same PNR to use QF107/QF108 between JFK/LAX.

So, Once you have booked that transpacific flight on Qantas, they will permit you to travel on QF107/QF108 again as long as it's in the same booking.This is not the case; as noted above Qantas require such a flight to be in the same PNR. So you could route SYD-JFK, JFK-LAX, LAX-LHR, LHR-SYD if you desired (or even SYD-LAX, LAX-JFK, JFK-LAX, LAX-LHR ...)

You do not have to be connecting. Qantas do require your PNR contain a transpacific segment on QF, but that's it.

QF has been forced to adopt this policy by the US DOT in response to repeated complaints filed by another airline (who will be unnamed but starts with U and ends with A). It is to preclude accidental cabotage. Note that the trans-pac flight on QF must precede the LAX-JFK sector (as the pax can change the routing and not fly QF trans-pac later). Technically the gov't rules allow QF to do anything they want as long as 100% guarantee that no cabotage occurs (with a big penalty for failure to comply). Your US tax dollars at work, keeping the world safe for airlines that start with U.

So presumably on the reverse, where the pax first flies JFK-LAX and has a ticket for a later QF trans-pac flight, the pax could change the routing and not take the QF trans-pac flight. Would there be consequences then for QF I wonder?

See the first paragraph of my post #7 of this thread.

As long as the itineray has an international flight and the PAX does indeed travel internationally within the itinerary then cabotage does not come into it in a final & legal sense.

so is the general consensus that SYD-JFK//JFK-LAX on QF will be permited on an AONE5?

If I wont' be able to fly JFK-LAX on QF, then I'll just book JFK-YVR on CX instead.

thoughts?

Does this run afoul of the xONEx routing rules? You're only allowed one trans-con (JFK-LAX or LAX-JFK) under the rules. Do you get around this by having (the same) QF flight number all the way?

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I booked SYD-LAX on the A380 on QF with a 4 day layover in LAX then on to JFK on QF. No problemo!

You are correct that QF108 JFK-LAX would be the one permitted NA transcontinental.

On an xONEx, one could fly QF107 SYD-JFK, and also have QF108 JFK-LAX in the same itinerary.