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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by jbalmuth
I think that it would be useful if you could please compare the 2 dozen or so tax line details to see which changed between the AA and QF purchase screens, and report back.
An update and eye opener. The tax calculation changed even though I used saved itineraries. Both decreased during the last week, though on QF it was only about 5,000 KRW. AA decreased by over 50%.


Immigration and Naturalization Service Fee 22,000.00 KRW
Finland - Passenger Fee - International 20,400.00 KRW
Passenger Facility Charges 7,100.00 KRW
Passenger Service Charge (International) for
South Korea 28,000.00 KRW
International Departure Tax for Chile 47,000.00 KRW
UK Passenger Service Charge 46,500.00 KRW
U.S Animal and Plant Inspection Service Users Fee 15,800.00 KRW
U.S Customs Fee 17,200.00 KRW
September 11th Security Fee 8,000.00 KRW
Finland - Security Charge - Domestic International 9,000.00 KRW

total taxes/surcharges = 221,000.00 KRW
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Adult traveller(s)
Immigration and Naturalization Service Fee 22,000.00 KRW
Finland - Passenger Fee - International 20,400.00 KRW
Passenger Facility Charges 7,100.00 KRW
Passenger Service Facilities Charge - Japan 32,400.00 KRW
Passenger Service Charge (International) for
South Korea 28,000.00 KRW
International Departure Tax for Chile 47,000.00 KRW
UK Passenger Service Charge 46,500.00 KRW
Airline Insurance Surcharge 5,100.00 KRW
U.S Animal and Plant Inspection Service Users Fee 15,800.00 KRW
U.S Customs Fee 17,200.00 KRW
September 11th Security Fee 8,000.00 KRW
Finland - Security Charge - Domestic International 9,000.00 KRW

total taxes/surcharges = 258,500.00 KRW


Aside from the 2 bolded items which QF charges (probably due to the NRT stopover), the taxes are the same. It may be just a function of the fact that LA and AY had 3 long haul flights, while there were only 2 AA long-haul flights.
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 12:32 pm
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I'm extremely intrigued as to how you've avoided the Airline Fuel Surcharge --- the general source of large differences between quotes (and the purpose of this thread) ---for both itineraries

Would you please clarify again what exactly are the differences between the 2 itineraries in regard to the first 2 legs ---- i.e. dates, times, flight number to NRT, flight number to JFK?
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 12:49 pm
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Originally Posted by jbalmuth
I'm extremely intrigued as to how you've avoided the Airline Fuel Surcharge --- the general source of large differences between quotes (and the purpose of this thread) ---for both itineraries

Would you please clarify again what exactly are the differences between the 2 itineraries in regard to the first 2 legs ---- i.e. dates, times, flight number to NRT, flight number to JFK?
You might also want to look at posts 6-8 on this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-question.html
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Old Mar 13, 2009 | 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Gardyloo
You might also want to look at posts 6-8 on this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...-question.html

In note 11 above, headinclouds reported that he had booked an itinerary where the first two legs were

ICN (JL) NRT
stopover
NRT (AA) JFK

and in his note 16, this JL itinerary (ticketed by QF) had no YQ Airline Fuel Surcharge of any kind. I tried replicating that and can't ---- can you?
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 1:40 am
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Here I am at home convalescing after having my appendix removed (thanks in advance for all your get well wishes) - so I decided to do a little study of the Fuel Surcharges that airlines will charge for the same itinerary. The tables below summarise the results

For simplicity I devised an itinerary that keeps the number of segments low – namely
LHR-(BA/CX/QF)-HKG-(JL)-NRT-(AA)-JFK-(LA)-SCL-(IB)-MAD-(RJ)-AMM-BUD-(AY)-HEL-LHR
Starting from LHR – I produced three itineraries – one with a BA flight for the first segment, then CX then QF. The next itinerary started from HKG flying JL – it ended with a LHR-HKG tagged on the end. And so on, ending with an itinerary starting BUD-HEL and ending AMM-BUD

Summary results in local currency:
Code:
Airline	Start	Cur’cy	Base	All Tax	YQ Component
BA	LHR	GBP	2,052	442.20	178.00
CX	LHR	GBP	2,052	412.70	112.00
QF	LHR	GBP	2,052	442.20	185.50
JL	HKG	HKD	27,600	2,959	78.00
AA	NRT	JPY	370,000	31,340	3,500
LA	JFK	USD	4,404	225.98	-
IB	SCL	USD	3,304	596.29	190.00
RJ	MAD	EUR	2,472	246.62	107.62
MA	AMM				
AY	BUD	HUF	637,800	70,000	-
Summary results in AUD:
Code:
Airline	Start		Base	All Tax	YQ Component 
BA	LHR		3,697.30	796.76	320.72
CX	LHR		3,697.30	743.60	201.80
QF	LHR		3,697.30	796.76	334.23
JL	HKG		4,107.14	440.33	11.61
AA	NRT		4,786.55	405.43	45.28
LA	JFK		5,091.33	261.25	-
IB	SCL		3,819.65	689.35	219.65
RJ	MAD		3,899.05	388.99	169.75
MA	AMM				
AY	BUD		3,665.52	402.30	-
YQ Findings:
  • The tool would not let me start an itinerary with MA as the first carrier (neither AMM-BUD nor BUD-HEL)
  • AY and LA charged no YQ
  • JL and AA charged a small YQ
  • RJ, CX and IB were in the middle
  • BA and QF were the expensive ones
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Old Feb 8, 2010 | 6:24 am
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No idea why I posted what I did
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