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FAQ
When is [insert airline here] joining oneworld???
Which airlines are lined up to join?
See list below and https://www.oneworld.com/member-airlines/overview
Another useful page for official announcements is: https://www.oneworld.com/news-information/oneworldnews
Current members elect (officially announced and currently aligning processes):
WY - Oman Air
Announced 20JUN22, with a target of '2024' - no indication yet when in 2024 this may be. https://www.oneworld.com/news/2022-0...-join-oneworld
Expected members:
FJ - Fiji Airways
Currently the only oneworld Connect member, FJ stated 28FEB24 that they would like to seek full membership and would apply in Q3 2024.Full membership may still take until 2025/2026. #1489 and https://onemileatatime.com/news/fiji-airways-oneworld/
EI - Aer Lingus
EI's new owners, IAG (owners of existing members BA+IB), stated before acquisition that they fully intended EI to rejoin, and have restated the intention since completing the purchase. EI has not yet been publically 'invited' by oneworld but should join eventually. When? When it's announced... When will EI become a full member of Oneworld?
Originally Posted by Willie Walsh via USA Today - 18NOV16
Walsh said it was too early to set a precise date for when Aer Lingus might officially join.
“We don’t have a specific timeline. We’re working as quickly as we can," he said.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...-ceo/94064688/
“We don’t have a specific timeline. We’re working as quickly as we can," he said.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...-ceo/94064688/
Potential members:
Well, that's what the discussion below is all about! Heard a rumour? Think oneworld should chase a particular airline to join or switch? Make your case!
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Who will be the next oneworld member? + New membership announcements [merged]
#526
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: QFF
Posts: 5,304
The JQ group (at least JQ, 3K and GK) should join oneworld as QF affiliates.
#527
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Duchy of Milan
Programs: BA Gold, TK Elite, AZ CFP
Posts: 1,857
JQ is constantly growing and stealing market to QF, at least for the domestic sector, if you want to earn QFF Points on JQ you have to pay more: with JQ into oneworld it wouldn't make any difference between QF and JQ (I'm not referring to quality and service of an airline but pure and merely miles calculation).
I myself had 4 SYD-MEL return plus other domestic flights on QF because of the benefits I'm entitled to and the earning TP factor.
If QF wanted JQ to be part of the alliance they would make them join long time ago
#528
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,477
The extra cost (i.e. lounge, luggage, transit instead of point-to-point mode, ffp etc.) to implement alliance membership is not visible for JQ at this moment.
QF still sees JQ as a hidden triumph card towards QF labour issues...
#529
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,437
#531
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Posts: 4,477
Being rational, I think the chance is low. However, the recent trial of BA Gatwick to introduce hand-luggage fare make things interesting. At this moment Vueling have three fare products:
1>, Lowest Basic fare without IB Avios and luggage
2>, Advanced optimum fare with IB Avios and luggage but limited flexibility
3>, Flexible Excellence fare with IB Avios and Luggage and food
So I can see BA Gatwick to match this fare structure in future with the addition of Business class.
I think Vueling would be a good candidate to oneworld since Iberia is shrinking and in some way even worse than Vueling. But in order to make Vueling a member of oneworld. Vueling needs to restructure its fare product and introduce quasi-business class in its cabins and throw in lounge access. Or at least make some arrangement for elite member to go into lounge like Airberlin.
I think in near future Vueling will be outside the oneworld alliance. However more benefits may be extended to IAG group airlines. I think the possible changes to Vueling would be BA executive club members be able to earn points on Vueling just as the IB members. Avios.com members will be able to earn avios when book and fly with Vueling. Also they will be able to redeem avios on Vueling routes. But as I said in beginning, the possibility of vueling in oneworld is low. And I think we need another two years to see which direction the wholly IAG owned Vueling would go.
#532
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Duchy of Milan
Programs: BA Gold, TK Elite, AZ CFP
Posts: 1,857
Good question!!!
Being rational, I think the chance is low. However, the recent trial of BA Gatwick to introduce hand-luggage fare make things interesting. At this moment Vueling have three fare products:
1>, Lowest Basic fare without IB Avios and luggage
2>, Advanced optimum fare with IB Avios and luggage but limited flexibility
3>, Flexible Excellence fare with IB Avios and Luggage and food
So I can see BA Gatwick to match this fare structure in future with the addition of Business class.
I think Vueling would be a good candidate to oneworld since Iberia is shrinking and in some way even worse than Vueling. But in order to make Vueling a member of oneworld. Vueling needs to restructure its fare product and introduce quasi-business class in its cabins and throw in lounge access. Or at least make some arrangement for elite member to go into lounge like Airberlin.
I think in near future Vueling will be outside the oneworld alliance. However more benefits may be extended to IAG group airlines. I think the possible changes to Vueling would be BA executive club members be able to earn points on Vueling just as the IB members. Avios.com members will be able to earn avios when book and fly with Vueling. Also they will be able to redeem avios on Vueling routes. But as I said in beginning, the possibility of vueling in oneworld is low. And I think we need another two years to see which direction the wholly IAG owned Vueling would go.
Being rational, I think the chance is low. However, the recent trial of BA Gatwick to introduce hand-luggage fare make things interesting. At this moment Vueling have three fare products:
1>, Lowest Basic fare without IB Avios and luggage
2>, Advanced optimum fare with IB Avios and luggage but limited flexibility
3>, Flexible Excellence fare with IB Avios and Luggage and food
So I can see BA Gatwick to match this fare structure in future with the addition of Business class.
I think Vueling would be a good candidate to oneworld since Iberia is shrinking and in some way even worse than Vueling. But in order to make Vueling a member of oneworld. Vueling needs to restructure its fare product and introduce quasi-business class in its cabins and throw in lounge access. Or at least make some arrangement for elite member to go into lounge like Airberlin.
I think in near future Vueling will be outside the oneworld alliance. However more benefits may be extended to IAG group airlines. I think the possible changes to Vueling would be BA executive club members be able to earn points on Vueling just as the IB members. Avios.com members will be able to earn avios when book and fly with Vueling. Also they will be able to redeem avios on Vueling routes. But as I said in beginning, the possibility of vueling in oneworld is low. And I think we need another two years to see which direction the wholly IAG owned Vueling would go.
IAG has substantially a big problem: it's made of two totally different airlines in terms of quality and service. Financial results reflect this discrepancy.
Recently I took my grandfather to Madrid and London and we flew IB and BA and he himself noticed an incredible difference: he was shocked IB doesn't offer a free meal service (I myself am quite upset every time I take an IB flight).
Analyzing oneworld presence in Europe I'd say it has two full carries (BA and AY) and two hybrids (AB lacks of lounges and business seats and IB free food).
Vueling could take advantage of oneworld lounges' strong presence in Europe and add business class seats (or fares, as European business class are economy class seats with privileges). I didn't consider S7 as their network is mainly through Russia.
#533
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Germany / Thailand
Programs: M&M/S SPG livetime gold, but not running behind status & points anymore! Now only book value for $
Posts: 3,090
#535
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Duchy of Milan
Programs: BA Gold, TK Elite, AZ CFP
Posts: 1,857
It would be nice, but QF wouldn't receive any passanger benefits as its only European destination is London and due to the current economic situation set up an airline in the overcrowded European skies is highly hazardous.
#536
Join Date: Jul 2007
Programs: QFF
Posts: 5,304
Then AY can stick a codeshare on the QF metal DXB-HEL and replace that awful 757 they use on that route.
#537
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Duchy of Milan
Programs: BA Gold, TK Elite, AZ CFP
Posts: 1,857
I doubt they could fill an A380 directed to Helsinki from Australia.
#538
Yes, it's a shame that you don't get a free meal intra-europe but I can handle 2 hours without a meal.
#539
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Duchy of Milan
Programs: BA Gold, TK Elite, AZ CFP
Posts: 1,857
This lack of service intra-europe is compensated by excellent service on flights transatlantic. My last 2 experiences flying IB to NY were excellent. Meals and Service are better than what I'm used to flying BA & AA. (You even get a real knife&fork :-))
Yes, it's a shame that you don't get a free meal intra-europe but I can handle 2 hours without a meal.
Yes, it's a shame that you don't get a free meal intra-europe but I can handle 2 hours without a meal.
The short haul "meal problem" is not a problem of course, but as IB is a flag carrier I would expect a certain level of services (their prices are also alligned with other flag carriers which offer full service), otherwise I would fly Ryanair.
Last year I flew 16 sectors on IB and I think only once or twice I had no problems of any pattern (mostly delays)
#540
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It is May now. So far we know the next member would be:
Qatar
Sri Lanka
US and
TAM
So would there be any new member sign up soon?
My bet is on:
1>, Bangkok Airways
Currently have tie with Airberlin, MH, JAL and Qatar. Although it does not bring much to oneworld. But it would further strengthen oneworld's Southeast Asia network and have a bigger hub in Bangkok with extended routes to Laos, Cambodia and Burma.
2>, Vueling
Still awaits IAG's plan on this Barcelona based airline
Some other unlikely but sensible airlines which may attract oneworld's interests:
1>, Air India
Yes we know we know. How horrible this airline is. But with Kingfisher lost its wings and unlikely to recover, oneworld needs to look beyond the dysfunctional carrier. Etihad's injection to Jet Airways will stop Jet's progress towards oneworld or Star Alliance. while being rejected by star alliance, Air India needs to look elsewhere. Although Air India would not be a typical oneworld member but it would provide some opportunities.
2>, China Southern
In China, the airline CEO has very strong influence on airline's alliance membership. This can be seen from the former China Southern, China Eastern CEOs and Air China CEO. The current China Southern boss is not very happy because he is living under the shadow of the current China Eastern CEO. Although China Eastern is introduced by China Southern into sky team, the legend or importance of the former China Southern CEO had brought his connection to China Eastern. Will China Southern defect? Possibly not. One thing is certain though. The tension between China Eastern and China Southern will rise as further corporation (or the vision of merge under the former China Southern CEO) is not in the card.
Qatar
Sri Lanka
US and
TAM
So would there be any new member sign up soon?
My bet is on:
1>, Bangkok Airways
Currently have tie with Airberlin, MH, JAL and Qatar. Although it does not bring much to oneworld. But it would further strengthen oneworld's Southeast Asia network and have a bigger hub in Bangkok with extended routes to Laos, Cambodia and Burma.
2>, Vueling
Still awaits IAG's plan on this Barcelona based airline
Some other unlikely but sensible airlines which may attract oneworld's interests:
1>, Air India
Yes we know we know. How horrible this airline is. But with Kingfisher lost its wings and unlikely to recover, oneworld needs to look beyond the dysfunctional carrier. Etihad's injection to Jet Airways will stop Jet's progress towards oneworld or Star Alliance. while being rejected by star alliance, Air India needs to look elsewhere. Although Air India would not be a typical oneworld member but it would provide some opportunities.
2>, China Southern
In China, the airline CEO has very strong influence on airline's alliance membership. This can be seen from the former China Southern, China Eastern CEOs and Air China CEO. The current China Southern boss is not very happy because he is living under the shadow of the current China Eastern CEO. Although China Eastern is introduced by China Southern into sky team, the legend or importance of the former China Southern CEO had brought his connection to China Eastern. Will China Southern defect? Possibly not. One thing is certain though. The tension between China Eastern and China Southern will rise as further corporation (or the vision of merge under the former China Southern CEO) is not in the card.